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  1. MrFirst

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    Italy seizes weapons from neo-Nazis...Western media immediately fabricates a link to Russia

    Western media continued its tradition of whitewashing far-right extremism in Ukraine this week, reporting that Italian police busted a neo-Nazi gang ‘linked’ to Russia – but this alleged link was dreamed up out of thin air.
    Italian police said on Monday that they had seized a cache of weapons and Nazi memorabilia belonging to a neo-Nazi group operating in northern Italy. The bust was part of a year-long investigation into extremists who had fought “against the separatists” in the Donbass region of Ukraine.

    Those who read the news via major outlets like the BBC, CNN, The Guardian, Politico, ABC News, Sky News, CBS and Reuters learned a totally different version of events, however.

    Rather than fighting “against” the rebels in eastern Ukraine’s breakaway regions, as the police statement made clear, the extremists in question were actually fighting “alongside” the pro-Russia separatists. The neo-Nazis fighting for Kiev in eastern Ukraine had magically morphed into pro-Russia militants aiding the separatist cause.

    Giving the story this added element of mystery, the Italian police also altered their original statement on the weapons seizure, to wipe the phrase about the gang fighting “against” the separatists and watering it down simply to say that the extremists had been monitored “for having taken part in the armed conflict in the Donbass region.”

    Why exactly the police changed their original statement remains unclear, but it did give the BBC the perfect opportunity to quietly amend its false story, dumping the Russia link and replacing it with the more vague assertion that the extremists had simply taken part “in the conflict in eastern Ukraine," echoing the altered police statement.

    A Reuters update to its original story claiming the group was fighting "alongside" separatists now says that Italian police "declined to say" who they had been fighting for.

    When contacted by RT, Italian police also said there had been an "error" in the initial press release and claimed that police had not said anything about "which side" the fighters belonged to. Except that in the original statement, they very clearly did specify a side.

    This was confirmed again by Roberto Vivaldelli, a journalist for the Il Giornale newspaper, who reported that even during a press conference on the raid, the head of the Turin Counterterrorism Service, Luigi Spina, said that the Italian neo-Nazis "had helped Ukrainian nationalist groups in the fight against pro-Russian Donbass groups.”

    There does not seem to be any ambiguity here, so the excuse that some kind of “error” was made in the first version of the statement does seem rather implausible. What does seem more plausible is that the police may have altered the release for, shall we say, diplomatic reasons.

    Many news outlets still have not corrected their stories claiming an imaginary link to Russia, despite neither of the two police statements ever having claimed one. The story swept across social media too, with influential Western reporters from other outlets tweeting out the news with the usual mix of disingenuous shock and dismay.

    This is the kind of blatant disinformation that Western media screams about on a daily basis, but engages in without a second thought whenever it suits them.

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/464314-italy-neo-nazis-media-ukraine/
     
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    Yes...it's all fabrication:))....did you get a pay raise at the factory Vyacheslav?

    Are you learning Arabic Krasonodarsky?
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    When everything the American people believe is false, we will know the success of our misinformation efforts.
     
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    Modern day fascism on a global level is always linked to fascist Russia.
     
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    Oh....an admission .....not something we already didn't know here.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Communist Russia, Fascist Germany & Italy. You have your historical labels confused.
     
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    Disney has always been known as the dream factory...
     
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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...sile-guns-in-raids-on-neo-nazis-idUSKCN1UA1T0

    Elite police forces searched properties across northern Italy following an investigation into Italians who had fought in eastern Ukraine in the conflict between government forces and Russian-backed separatists, a police statement said. A police official declined to say who they had been fighting for.

    And I think I heard that they were fighting against the Russian backed separatists,.. but hey... lol
     
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    Except Russians aren't fascists, but have always been the victims of fascism. Big difference! It's like calling the victim of murder the murderer. What the MSM did is a brainwashing gimmick to prepare the American people for an aggressive and criminal war. The Pentagon is now contemplating it - with nuclear arms no less.

    We're progressing now from a policy of; strategic ambiguity, into out and out lies - and the only ones that are being deceived are the American people.






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    was just a lie that you had bought. - Jeannette


     
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    Yup, Jeannette, modern day Russia and Syria are both fascist states, while Saudia Arabia is trying to become one.
     
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    I stopped reading the British Bullsh*tting Corp. when I caught them lying - and that was 15 years ago. They might be trying to start a war to distract the British public from its internal problems - especially with Brexit.


     
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    Yup, the fascist Italians fought with the Russian-back separatist fascists on behalf of Russian fascism.
     
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    I don't think he has his labels confused. I think it's deliberate so as to misinform and confuse the public.
     
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    Since the BBC lied directly without the usual; 'we believe so', or 'alleged' so they could be protected from law suits, can't they be sued by the Italian police for misrepresenting what they said?
     
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    Police diplomacy.
     
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    Yeah... you said one thing that they claimed this or that. And they changed it. You scream all over the place of false accusations. The accusations aren't there. It really is as if the false accusations are still around. I never saw them or heard them.

    In fact.... The BBC made reports dating back to 2014, that Ukraine and it's Ukrainian politicians aren't that shy to brush up to fascism.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955
     
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    That was 70 years ago. Things change. Like the KKK used to vote straight ticket Democrat, now they are devout Republicans and Putin lovers.
     
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    Maybe something wrong with your logic? First police statement was clear - the detained nazis fought in Ukraine against Russia backed separatists. The second statement does not deny the first statement. You can't find accusations because MSM changed their texts. First they were glad to link these nazis to Russia, but after their lie was revealed, they amended their articles, so Russia-backed-Italian-nazis turned to be some-fighters-in Ukraine without specification about which side they fought for.

    You've posted the link to Reuters. But why Reuters doesn't tell you the truth? The whole truth?
    Why they didn't say that those Italian nazis fought along with Ukrainian nazis in Donbass? Reuters could easily find this information. Ok, police declined to say - but the Italian minister Salvini said it. So, what's the problem with Reuters?
     
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    I never saw the article linking it to Russia. And you adding that they were glad to do it like that,... that's just your own fiction right there.

    What whole truth? It was in the main media before that the extreme far right was brushing up with the Ukrainian government. I sourced that.
     

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