Being White

Discussion in 'Race Relations' started by The Rhetoric of Life, Mar 15, 2018.

  1. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Making such events even more meaningful then as a celebration to be free.
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2018
  2. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,645
    Likes Received:
    46,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Well that's great.

    Celebrating freedom and equality is fine.

    Celebrating a skin color cheapens it.

    The problem is that most of these groups on the left would have you believe that western culture needs to be even more heavily regulated by giving up freedom for government control.

    Europe is going backwards in human freedom, and that's nothing to be proud of.
     
  3. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It is what it is, freedom to be proud and proud to be free.

    Proud to be after being regardless of being allowed to be or not, it's like celebrating your right to be.
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2018
  4. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    One day hopefully we can celebrate freedom from Socialism.

    Like for example, we overthrow them, and then mark that day and be proud to be free; for example.
     
  5. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,645
    Likes Received:
    46,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes but as I said, Europe is not becoming more free, it is becoming less free.

    As I said, most of these "pride" events are leftist groups who are not celebrating any of the things you mentioned, they are just self-segregating.
     
  6. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,645
    Likes Received:
    46,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Unfortunately the EU is all about socialism.

    The EU has basically told the UK that the Brexit vote is irrelevant.

    You can check out, but you can never leave, to quote a good song.
     
  7. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I don't think a Black pride event or Pride event for homosexuality in Europe has anything to do with Europe as a whole since Europe is a continent; in London, it's got everything to do with British History.
    Britain's far from free, but these people celebrating pride, are celebrating no longer being oppressed because of their race or creed.
     
  8. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I think it's; The EU can block any deal and choose what Brexit it wants.

    It's up to the EU to agree to a deal or not;
    Not to be confused with
    'It's up to the EU to let the UK go'
    since the UK has started the process.
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2018
  9. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    If you don't want Pride Events to celebrate Blacks and Gays, then cancel 4th of July to celebrate Americans being American @vman12
     
  10. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,645
    Likes Received:
    46,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I hope you're right, but what I read of May's release today doesn't sound like you're going to be free of the EU in any meaningful way.
     
  11. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,645
    Likes Received:
    46,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The 4th of July is about all Americans regardless of skin color. That's as inclusive as you can get.

    I know because a number of non-white people that served with me died to keep the flag flying.

    I didn't say I don't want them. I said they don't make any sense.

    Perhaps they mean something different there. Here, these events tend to turn into discussions of how oppressed they are in this country, despite the fact that the countries their ancestors came from were and are far more oppressive.
     
  12. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What about Non Americans?
     
  13. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,645
    Likes Received:
    46,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    How is the 4th of July about non-americans?
     
  14. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It's not, how is Black pride about Whites?
    Or Gay pride about Hetero?
     
  15. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,645
    Likes Received:
    46,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Um, the 4th of July is about the country and every american in it gaining independence.

    It would have nothing to do with non-americans.

    What about white pride? Is that ok or does that get you labeled a "racist"?
     
  16. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Pride is based on being free.
    Whites have always been free (since 1776) if you count being British not being free.

    It's you being proud to have the right to be you.
    Non Americans can still get invited to 4th of July celebrations, Whites can go to Black pride events, Hetero can still go to Gay pride events; All it really is, is being proud to be allowed to be, and celebrating that.
    Don't you see that?
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2018
  17. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,645
    Likes Received:
    46,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sure, but what's the statute of limitations?

    If you go far enough back, pretty much everyone has ancestors who were slaves at some point.

    Like I said, there may be cultural differences between our two countries, so please account for that.

    Yes, you have a right to be proud of you, but who you are is not your skin color.

    I notice you didn't answer my question regarding white pride events. Do they have those in the UK or would attending a white pride event be considered "racist"?
     
  18. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So the perceived oppressor wants a holiday?
    A pride event.

    How far do we dig?
    Living memory seems good as a place to start, and while we're all in it, the status of limitations is still good until the generations who saw Segragtion and 'No Blacks, No Irish' and Homosexuality a crime is dead and is over a hundred years old and our children's children don't have memories of it but get to celebrate their freedoms to be; that's when the statue of limitations runs out and we can all get along', be happy being you, knowing that once others like you didn't get to, but you do today. 'in the future'
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2018
  19. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Statue of Limitations begin from the amending the state/law of the land until the day it leaves 'living memory' and nobody alive remembers the crimes against them dealt by the state, retaining the right celebrate the liberation of it and the freedoms enjoyed those who have yet to exist.
    I'm talking over 100 years lest anything blows up, and, there's no guaranteeing.
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2018
  20. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,645
    Likes Received:
    46,476
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Quite honestly "oppression" only extends to the individual.

    While slavery was horrible for those who actually suffered under it, their future generations now have a much better life than they would have in Africa.

    People who lived during the Jim Crowe era certainly have a right to feel the country oppressed them.

    In 2018 these college kids are not oppressed. They're the furthest thing from oppressed. They're just living in a past they have never experienced.

    Can't help but notice you're still dodging the "white pride" thing. Can't or don't want to answer that?
     
  21. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So thanks the British for buying these African-Americans a ticket and a country? - No.
    Points such as Britain 'feeding the the slave trade and dragging people to America'. and pretending after 1865, Blacks and Whites were magically 'cool' with each other in America.
    Segregation really ****ed the Rebels over, I'm just going to be honest.
    The 1960's was some 50 years ago, Whites in America'd have to wait a while, until that whole living memory dies down, before the Statue of Limitations is up, and remember; Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time.
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2018
  22. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Not yet my friend, one day, God willing, but not yet.
     
  23. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    What would a future White Pride event look like?

    Defiantly would have Blacks and Asians celebrating White Culture too...
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2018
  24. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2017
    Messages:
    14,640
    Likes Received:
    7,802
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    You have to be really naïve naïve to believe that people don’t form identities around others skin color or others genders or other nationalities. It’s called sterotyping
     
  25. Renee

    Renee Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2017
    Messages:
    14,640
    Likes Received:
    7,802
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    It would like the white miss American pageants we had for decades...it just wasn’t called that
     

Share This Page