Ben Carson says Gay Marriage will lead to polygamy

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  1. Hotdogr

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    My question to Mr. Carson (whom I have a lot of respect for) would be: "Who cares?" Anything that consenting adults want to do that does not infringe the rights of others should be no concern of government, particularly the federal government.
     
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    Why should government policy for tax breaks not be equal across the board?
     
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    Perhaps you'd like to explain how children born under such cockamamie arrangements are supposed to accomplish that.

    Since he's not going to show up here I'll take a wild stab: everyone who understands that traditional families are the building blocks of any society worth living in.

    You're welcome.
     
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    I agree, but, as I said before (and you snipped), anything that consenting adults want to do that does not infringe the rights of others should be no concern of government, particularly the federal government. You are not of the opinion that the only thing that makes the traditional family the norm, is government, are you?
     
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    Polygamy is outlawed to everyone - whether they are gay, straight, man, or woman.

    Marriage used to be denied to gay men and women. Now it's not.
     
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    Oh , I see...so you are hinting about reproduction now as a barrier to Marriage? And trying to disguise that with words like "Science" and "facts" lol...

    Probably hoping that noone recalls your side telling us that reproduction is not a requirement of Marriage....but, I do recall that. Sorry, procreation isnt a qualiffier for Marriage now either Fox.

    Same as when your side was saying it wasnt for Gays.

    - - - Updated - - -


    And have fun making things up as you go along to cover for your busted arguments.
     
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    This is not what we were talking about. Nice try.

    noone ever said Blacks were restricted from marriage....so defending that point with a link is nothing but an attempt to sidetrack from the point.


    The point I originally made, that alot of you are trying to buzz about now..is that Marriage had an instant meaning...like fire...or water...that when you said the word to someone, they knew what it meant instantly.

    To which some of you tried to toss a race card.

    To which i replied that noone ever would have mentioned color as their immediate recognition to Marriage.


    Your post above is nothing but a sidetrack argument, which I see right through. Noone ever made the claim that Blacks were not restricted..

    knock down your own Strawman thank you.
     
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    Likewise Rich, this has nothing to do with the definition of marriage. The only reason why "gay marriage" was allowed in whole is because of the 14th amendment. When you have 30 plus states allowing gay marriage and another 13 who refused to even acknowledge civil unions, the court had to decide and luckily decided on the the Constitution, namely 14th amendment under the equal protection clause. The same will be said with polygamy, incest, or whatever. If enough states approve of those lifestyles because that is how socieity has evolved , then the 14th amendmnet may apply under the equal protection clause.
     
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    lol and your response is exactly why Ben Carson, is 100% correct, again.
     
  11. RichT2705

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    the 14th amendment was misinterpereted for the ruling. The 14th amendment only requires we all get the same offerings...which we did. Whether someone wishes that offering was something different , or not...does not mean something was withheld that was granted to others.

    Everyone had the same offering of Marriage, under the exact same rules.

    The 14th is quiet on this, unless of course you can show me that a Gay man for instance would ahve been turned down for a Marriage when he showed up at the Altar with a lady?

    if you can show me that, then you have a case of unequal application. If you cannot, then you should be able to see how the 14th doesnt apply here.


    "Wanting " Marriage to be about 2 Men is no different than "Wanting" it to be anything else that it is not...as long as you are offered it, like everyone else...the same as everyone else there is no violation of equality.
     
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    Ben Carson says Gay Marriage will lead to polygamy

    Another ridiculous lie.
     
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    Then it was a stupid question.

    Unless "others" is taken to include generations yet unborn, you can't have that and a society worth living in, because you can hardly expect the latter if the law is codified so as to confuse liberty with its mortal enemy, license.

    Nothing I said implies any such thing.
     
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    :roflol: Gay marriage is legal, Planned Parenthood is still helping women with open clinics.....It sure does rile some .....:roflol:
     
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    Translation.

    I cant refute what was said, so I'll sprinkle out a "We won" jab statement, and dig into my bag of over used smileys. Maybe noone will see that I ducked the response.

    Thanks Fox, up to your usual I see. I dont expect much more than that out of you anyway, it's beyond your ability.
     
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    funny, reproduction was not allowed to be a barrier to marraige for gays, but for other minorities, it's allowed? bwahahahahaha The hypocracy is funny


    I actually don't support incest marraige for that reason (and a few others) but I'm consistant. It's just funny to watch someone call someone a bigot for not liking the fact that gays can't reproduce, but then use that very reason to deny other minority groups the ability to marry.
     
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    Liberals will get behind pedophilia when the country has imported enough Muslim radicals to make a decent movement out of it.

    It will likely begin with some "fine upstanding" Muslim man being arrested for getting his F on with a child.

    They'll cry about culture and tolerance and freedom to "be who you are".

    And then boom ...we'll have ourselves a good ol' fashion pro-pedo SJW movement.

    Think it wont happen?

    Famous last words...
     
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    Nope. It'll be conservatives leading that charge.

    Cons are the only ones I have ever seen on this site who can't tell the difference between consenting adults and someone raping a child.

    Really all of you guys should be monitored when you are around children. You might get confused.
     
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    so what justification can you use to continue denying plural marraiges or incestuous marraiges if...

    1. consenting adults
    2. reproduction can not be a barrier to marriage
    3. it doesn't affect you


    after all, those were the 3 big progay arguments and when someone didn't support those 3, they were labeled a bigot.....

    how can you deny incest or polygomy and not be a bigot as defined by YOU just 6 months ago?
     
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    So funny , and true , in fact...the other poster tried to throw up a shiny object hoping people would lose focus on his inconsistent, bungled argument. Looked something like this....


    :roflol: We won..nyah...nyah... :roflol:



    Same here.

    I dont support polygamy, or Incest along with Gay Marriage. I'm consistant in the belief Marriage is a 1 Man and 1 Woman union, so I dont have to try and ignore posts and dig myself out of holes with smileys when someone calls me out on my BS.
     
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    Your point was that "color" was not something people thought of when marriage is mentioned, even though it kinda was until 1948.

    But since that's really the point of anything like you said, I'd like to point out a list of changes in marriage law in America.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_civil_marriage_in_the_United_States
     
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    the gay jailbait fascination is no different than the hetero jailbait fascination for a lot of people, IMHO..... So I have no problem not discussing that issue. Because, to me, it ends up a wash anyways. There are plenty of sick perverts, both hetero and homo, that would love to tap some 15 yo ass......


    but incest and polygomy are not adult/child

    it's consenting adults (so no minors are involved)
    breeding is not a barrier (because gays wouldn't allow it to be a barrier for them, so they can't say it is now)
    how does it affect you (if gay marraige doesn't affect me, like you claim, how can incest marraige or polygomy affect you)
     
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    Does one man sound more appealing that 3 wives? Not to me.
     
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    Easy - 99% of humans beings belong to one of these mixed groups

    Gay, straight, bi
    male, female

    Marriage is lawful for all of them.

    Incestuous marriage is illegal for all these groups
    Plural marriage is illegal for all these groups

    Give me one group that is permitted to be in a plural or incestuous marriage. You can't because it's illegal for everyone.
     
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    Do you understand what hate is? Have you ever hated anyone or anything? If you did you would understand you're misusing the word.
     

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