Bergdahl scandal; a Veteran's perspective

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  1. Daily Bread

    Daily Bread New Member

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    Hey Sparks give it a shot and run for office ! You got some react on this one , you also got my vote .
    MOMS APPLE PIE AND A HOUSE WITH A WHITE PICKET FENCE ! Nothing wrong with that !!!!!
    Your Daily Bread
     
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    100% correct ! All we need to here now is that Bergdalh succumbed to his hideous treatment,probably a broken femur while playing soccer, under the Taliban . That would be the perfect ending to get the community organizer off the hook and you know Axelrod , Pelousy and Reid are thinking about it. If they silence him they won't have to abuse the Lois Lerner law regarding the 5th amendment which is the way to go for all law abiding citizens in their Demockracy.
     
  3. dujac

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    are you saying they're going to bump bergdahl off?
     
  4. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    I admit I'm not clear on what exactly you are bewildered about. That Americans are divided on this issue or that it was handled so poorly by the Obama administration?
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We got Bergdahl back. Fine. We gave the talban way too much for him= crappy negotiating from the insanely naive Obameleft.

    Obama does a "Victory Lap" presser on the Rose Garden, with Bergdahl's parents.


    We then ;earned Bergdahl is a DESERTER. We're pissed. That's it, in a nutshell.
     
  6. AlpinLuke

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    The second. That a US Administration can deal with such a situation in a so unsuitable way.
     
  7. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    It is perplexing, and I'm one who doesn't expect much from the administration. They act as if they were blindsided that Bergdahl deserted his unit even though it was reported in the papers in 2009.

    I can only guess that the bad deal of trading 5 Taliban commanders for a deserter is because they really want to emply Gitmo and the "trade" for Bergdahl is just a pretense for getting rid of people they wanted to release anyway.



    Why The Administration is Surprised by the Berghdahl Reaction
     
  8. AlpinLuke

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    In Italy we would mention a "hot potato" the administration wants to handle no more ...
     
  9. dujac

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    you realize most of the republicans that criticize everything obama does, hate liberal europe, right?
     
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    mngam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The "hot potato" was the VA scandal, Obama was desperate to get it off the front page.
     
  11. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    the va problems stem from the gop blocking aid bills


    GOP Blocks Veterans Bill

    Senate Republicans stopped Democrats from advancing a bill that would have expanded healthcare and education programs for veterans.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/199480-gop-blocks-veterans-bill
     
  12. mngam

    mngam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Keep juggling all those "hot potatoes" lefties. Looking forward to the FBI investigation...... Obamas Justice Department is going to allow the FBI to investigate it, right?
     
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    dujac Well-Known Member

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    the senate vote is a matter of fact



    do you not remember va problems under the bush administration?


    VA Problems Go Back Much Farther Than Expected

    "But according to VA inspector general reports and other documents that have gone overlooked in the current firestorm, federal officials knew about the scheme at the heart of the scandal—falsifying VA records to cover up treatment delays—years before Obama became president. VA officials first learned of the problems in 2005, when George W. Bush was entering his second term, and the problems went unfixed for the duration of his presidency."

    "In 1995, as part of a broader overhaul, the VA began pressing clinics to cut wait times for new patient appointments to 30 days. But there was no system for tracking which facilities were meeting this target until 2002, when the VA introduced electronic waiting lists to keep tabs on patients who couldn't be seen within a month. Managers who slashed wait times were given bonuses and other perks. This created an incentive to game the system, especially after veterans of the Iraq and Afghan wars began flooding into VA clinics and straining their already stretched resources."

    "A primary motivation for VA executives to manipulate wait times was to receive bonuses and advancements, which was true as far back as 2007, when the agency was caught in a related scandal."

    http://www.ibtimes.com/va-problems-go-back-much-farther-expected-mccain-others-call-secretary-resign-1591500
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    so, Obama and Reid are liars....................
     
  16. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    no, they were just being polite and following protocol
     
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    stjames1_53 Banned

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    lies within lies are still lies........................................
     
  18. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Donor

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    Ha ha ha

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  19. dujac

    dujac Well-Known Member

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    you're projecting again


    of course you can't make a serious argument
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm always serious with serious posts and posters, my friend. Think about it :)
     
  21. mngam

    mngam Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure, I remember, I also remember Obama campaigning on fixing them, how'd that work out?
    As a "moderate" <chuckle> I'm sure you will agree that Obama might make a dandy community organizer but is worthless as a President.
     
  22. dujac

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    the gop blocked the president's va bills, it's called obstructionism
     
  23. happy fun dude

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    If Obama says all his drone strike targets are Taliban and pose an immediate security risk to the USA, which is why he claims he has to kill them, how could five Taliban leaders being released into the wild alongside them not also present a security threat? Why does Obama insist that they won't pose a problem? Who are these drone strike targets that are more dangerous than Taliban leaders? I'm a bit puzzled now. Thank you Barack Obomber.
     
  24. AlpinLuke

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    Sure ... I do know international politics [if you call me politician, you don't offend me ...].
     
  25. dujac

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    kerry makes some excellent points in this video

    "they're not the only ones to keep an eye on them" john kerry

    [video=youtube;3wHt3a28jk0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wHt3a28jk0[/video]

    Kerry defends Bergdahl-for-Taliban exchange

    The five Taliban figures who got out of Guantanamo in exchange for U.S. Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl's release would be taking an "enormous risk" if they return to the battlefield, Secretary of State John Kerry told CNN in an interview that aired Sunday.
    "I'm not telling you that they don't have some ability at some point to go back and get involved (in fighting). But they also have an ability to get killed doing that. " Kerry said in his first public comments on the controversial prisoner exchange.

    Kerry defended the swap and told CNN the former detainees will be monitored closely -- and not just by officials in Qatar, where they were flown after being released. He wouldn't say who else will be watching, but he said the United States is confident the conditions of their release will be honored.

    "And if they're violated, then we have the ability to be able to do things," he said, warning that the United States would do whatever is necessary to protect Americans "if these guys pick a fight with us in the future, or now, or at any time."
    Kerry warns Taliban McCain: Bergdahl swap too great a risk Has Bergdahl affected the Obama 'brand'?

    Bergdahl was released May 31 near the Afghanistan-Pakistan border in an exchange for five Taliban detainees held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

    Republican critics in Washington have complained that the exchange for Bergdahl gave up hardened terrorists capable of attacking U.S. troops and interests. In addition, legislators from both parties accuse the Obama administration of violating the National Defense Authorization Act by failing to provide 30 days' advance notice to Congress of a transfer of Guantanamo detainees.

    Administration officials have given several reasons for the lack of notification -- a need to move quickly due to Bergdahl's poor health and the overall threat to his safety, and the likelihood that even a small leak of the plan could have led to his death.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/08/us/bowe-bergdahl-release/
     

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