Bernie Sanders to cut campaign hours to pay staffers $15 an hour minimum wage, prompting mockery fro

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    FFS. The federal minimum wage has been at $7.25/hr for a decade. Everyone is getting richer on the backs of the working poor and you're fine with it.

    Hey. You hate the idea of raising minimum wage. Why aren't you so passionate about the increasing wealth divide?
     
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    Bernie hates the idea of raising the min wage if he has to pay it

    Typical liberal cluelessness about private sector ie real world economics
     
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    This is false..

    No one is getting rich off of people making 7.25 an hour
    You are right.. it's been at 7.25 for Exactly a decade July 24, 2009. We've been in a major recession most of that time.

    For truth about the minimum wage go here.
    https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2017/home.htm
     
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    Bernie is getting a little taste of what the real world is like. It's a bit different than the academic and political world.
     
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    Bernie is now exposed as the hypocrite and phony he always has been trying to hide.
     
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    If you feel you're underpaid, take some courses and improve yourself. Duh!
     
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    Small business owners know more about economics than any economics professor anywhere in the world.
    Academics only teaches theory. People who spend all their lives studying and never doing are pretty much worthless to society and come to wrong conclusions.

    What we need and will probably never get is business owners into higher public offices.
    We need far fewer activist lawmakers.
     
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    Im glad you brought it up. I live in Los Angeles and the min wage is $14.25. (Will be $15 this time next year) The gap between the rich and poor is huge while poverty and homelessness is out of control.

    Parking attendants have been replaces by machines.
    Fast food is ordered from a touch screen or your phone.
    Grocery stores are now providing hand scanners customers can take through the store eliminating the need to stand on line waiting for an employee.

    A petri dish for your ideology already exists. Where are these benefits to society you speak of?
     
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    Do you even understand what this was about? His campaign staff workers get a $37,000 yearly stipend salary. People who work for campaigns normally work well beyond 40 hours a week. They do this for the reason they believe in the candidate. if you work 50 hours and if you were not on salary (as his workers are.) you would be making 42,900 a year. He then directed his staff to tell the workers not to work more than 43 hours a week so that they would be getting $15 per hour.
     
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    A machine replaces a parking valet?

    I refuse to scan my own stuff, I go thru the check out line and complain to the manager if the line is long. On the occasions I eat at McDs, I don't use the kiosk. Let them hire a kid or a blue hair.

    There are 3.5 mill truck drivers in the US, 1/2 of which will lose thier jobs in 12 years with self driving trucks.
     
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    Where did I say valet? The booth was replaced by a pay station. (Cars will drive and park themselves in the near future.) Your refusal is a non-issue. When you call for customer service or technical support, when can you refuse to go through the auto attendant, pressing option 7 and ending up on hold for an employee in another country?

    You simply cannot insist on dealing with employees that don't exist. The average consumer is not willing to pay $10.00 for a big mac for the pleasure of dealing with a kid.

    I do like how you feel you are in a position to tell them to hire a kid or (the derogatory term you use for) senior citizens. Let them eat cake!
     
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    I've made more than the current minimum wage since 1985. Minimum wage was never meant to be a "living wage". People take the jobs as starter jobs to gain work experience and history to get better opportunities. I've made more than $15/hr since 1996. Sometimes, I even pay my kids $10/hr out of my pocket to save myself some physical labor.
     
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    Its basic economics 101 in the private sector

    If you are forced by idiot socialist democrats to pay a minimum wage that is higher than your budget can afford something has to give

    Maybe bernia understands that a little better
     
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    I'm an LA native. Three generations of my family are buried at the Forest Lawn in Glendale, and my family participated in building all the public infrastructure and great private works that the city knows today.

    Liberalism drove me from my home, although it turns out that that was the best thing that ever happened to me.

    If you think that campaign staff works 50 hours a week you're an absolute fool. I used to work in politics, and got married the first time in October of 2010.

    I was 2 hours late to my own wedding.

    You can complain, and you certainly can resist the future, but that just makes you an old person.

    I can only think where I'd be today if I hadn't taken that job I was offered walking home from school one day when I was 16
     
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    mcds non management labor is 20% of the price. Right now the kids/fossils earn $1 of every $5.00 hamburger.
    They make 10 and hour now. if it goes up to 15 your burger will cost 50 more cents but the kids/fossils will have 50% more spending money.

    And yes the customers have import into thier decisions. And I am 66 years old and a "blue hair" myself
     
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    What does that have to do with the fact of what really occurred. Bernie just did not want his workers working more hours and not getting paid for it. He has sponsored legislation to prevent companies from paying people as "managers" for 400 a week and have them work 50 hours a week so they actually get paid less than min.
     
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    If they were not working more than 40 hours then them getting paid the 37,000 salary they were making 17.75 per hour. He cut thier "unpaid" overtime hours not thier pay.

    I am a progressive, why do you think I don't welcome change? Because I want to spend my money in places that hire people and not machines? That is why I love Kohls, they still have people on the floor to help.
     
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    Bernie obviously did not care how many hours his workers gave to the job till they made nationsl headlines

    But its too late

    If you need the contortions you are using to explain the debacle bernie will lose

    But at least these 20-something snowflakes are not the usual something-for-nothing bernie voter

    They just want more in return for the menial tasks they preform
     
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    What contortions are you talking about?

    And I am not a Bernie Supporter, but Gabbard.
     
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    I entered the workforce with basic woodworking skills from highschool wood shop in 1990. My first job paid 7.00 per hour i stayed with that employer for 15 years and left at 15 dollars per hour. And though i gained lots of experience i didn't gain much skill, i suck at wood working no matter how hard i try.
    Since then I have been in the sport fishing industry i have made as little as 10 dollars an hour to as much as 20.50 per hour.

    In all my years if full time employment I've never been underpaid. I have however been overpaid.

    Here is the simple truth. What determines wages is the profitability of the company.
    The best thing an employee can do is to help a company be profitable.
     
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    If bernie stumbles into the democrat nomination instead of gabby you will support him
     
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    Yeah, over Trump. But what contortions are you talking about. I find your position taking a convoluted turn to arrive at your conclusion - not mine.
     

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