Bernie Sanders to cut campaign hours to pay staffers $15 an hour minimum wage, prompting mockery fro

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would leave, but I have deep roots here. Im glad you made it out!
     
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    I have no contortion

    A government mandated min wage is just pissing in the wind till we get control of immigration and depirt a sizeable chunk of illegal workers already here
     
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    But what does that have to do with your criticism of bernie payment of his campaign workers
     
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    I totally agree with Illegal immigration, and is one my my biggest criticisms of the modern democratic party.
     
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    I dont care what bernie does with his campsign workers

    But I am interested in the old commie learning how stupid his socialist economic policies are
     
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    Thank you

    Old time liberal democrats knew that the rule of law and orderly immigration was good for America
     
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    And they will take that additional spending money to businesses that must also compensate for higher wages by raising their prices and they will be no better off. The only one that gets a raise is the government through higher taxes.
     
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    To clarify, politics is a unique work environment. In even number years you work 60-80 hours a week, not including events, in the hope that your candidate wins and you receive a staff position once they're in office. Otherwise you're unemployed in odd years.

    He cut their hours, which is great, but his attempts are suppressing labor rights is not.

    Do you think these staffers, which heavily depend upon his good graces for future employment and opportunities will receive such in the future?

    As far as progress goes, it's inevitable. The only reason you should fear automation is if you're incredibly wealthy. By the time I'm an old man most business and corporations will be gone, replaced with perfect capitalism where every individual owns the entirety of their own labor.
     
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    That's absolutely not what happened. Bernie's staff attempted to unionize. Bernie violated their Federal labor rights, as his employees have filed a formal complaint against him for attempting to prevent them from unionizing. That's what happened.
     
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    I had the advantage of being young and not particularly fond of my family.
     
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    Consider the source. He doesn't like anything that would remedy this...

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    What's happened to the real wage under Trump? It's flat...

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    Trumpites love the Orange Oaf because he "triggers" liberals. LardButt's camp followers think it's a joke liberals don't get. I guess he figures only Trumpites were issued with decoder rings.
     
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    I said adios to LA in the 1960s. Best move I ever made. They wrecked the place by not leaving green space in the basin. I grew up in Palos Verdes in the 1950s--geez, it was pretty.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Its still pretty. I love the beaches, hiking trails, and ride my Yamaha R1 through the twisty roads. The Sepulveda Basin is a homeless encampment now!
     
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    Don't know how far you go back in LA, but we used to drive past dairy farms from Palos Verdes to La Habra where my grandparents lived. They used to do truck farming in Torrance. The real estate bastards didn't leave any green space.

    I tossed in the towel when it took me an hour to get from Long Beach to work in Hawthorne. The other clincher was getting caught in traffic jams coming back from golfing in Palm Springs.

    P.S. 200 bhp on a bike is crazy, no?
     
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    your saying that a guy who makes 10 an hour wont be better off making 15? Because the price of the hamburger went up 50 cents? Is gas going to go up- heating oil the price of cars? housing prices? now the price of a car wash will go up, the price to get a meal out will go up. But a guy making 10 bucks is not spending a lot of money period.
    Specially in luxuries like eating out. Supermarket labor share is 14% of sales. so you figure maybe the most is 10% of sales is of people getting less than $15 now.
     
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    no, bernie hired the union before he hired the workers.

    The Sanders campaign union had ratified its first contract in early May, before it hired any of the field organizers that form the core of its outreach network in the four early primary and caucus states.

    When field organizers voiced their discontent with the terms of the contract, Shakir offered in mid-May to raise pay to $42,000, but the union voted it down because of concerns that it would expose staff to additional health care costs. The new agreement addresses that issue by preserving the campaign’s commitment to pay for the full cost of those employees’ health plans.


    Sanders noted in a CNN interview Tuesday that the core elements of the deal had been on the table for months.

    “We’re back to where we started,” he said.

    The agreement demonstrates how close management and the union were to a deal prior to the Post story, according to internal critics of the leak who spoke to HuffPost. It adds weight to arguments that days of negative publicity that often mistakenly implied that Sanders had a worse labor record than his presidential rivals could have been avoided.

    But other staff members remained critical of the way campaign management, including Shakir, handled negotiations. Even his mid-May counteroffer was made weeks before the vast majority of field organizers came on board, according to a field organizer sympathetic to the leak.

    That organizer praised the new deal.

    “It’s a good deal for wages,” the organizer said. “It’s a first step towards fixing the many problems field organizers and [regional field directors] have with the union contract, which was ratified and negotiated prior to their hiring.”
     
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    Globalism and illegal aliens are your enemy, not me
     
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    You don't "get it."
     
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    I was born in 69 and mostly lived in the SFV. They have no choice but to leave green space because it floods every year. I am fortunate to start work at 6 am, so I don't see traffic.

    Ive never been 200 MPH on the bike, but have hit 160 on the racetrack!
     
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    The worker is likely to end up worse off as his position is likely to be eliminated. Its already happening.
     
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    Indeed

    I would have to be brain damaged to « get it » the way you do
     
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    »lardbutt »

    « Orange Oaf »

    « Decoder rings »

    You are consumed with childish and petty rage
     
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    Why, I think the low wage jobs are the likeliest to stick around, I find the high wage jobs much more likely to be eliminated. Bigger Bang for your buck. If anything I think it is the low level managers that are most in danger. ERP and CSM programs are getting so powerful. They can knock my position at $85,000 out a lot easier than the our guys making 35,000 building and inspecting short production runs.

    It used to take me days at the end of every month to do my sales reports etc, never mind the 1-2 hours I spent everyday documenting communications. Now it took me 1 hour a month when I left, Salesforce is wonderful.
     
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    Much of it was gone when you showed up. As it was...

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    Not mph, bph. Horsepower.
     
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    Oh, you mean like the name-calling guy in the White House you continue supporting?
     

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