Best 7 minute presentation on gun control

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is great. This was not spoken on some local TV channel or on the radio. This was a talk to Government.

    I approve this message. What do you say?

    We are not merely discussing guns or crimes, we are talking your civil rights. And Congress has no right to remove your civil rights.

    If you believe you handed them your rights to dispose of as you please, then you may as well have handed your rights to the killers who use guns against you.

    [video=youtube;B5ELyG9V1SY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5ELyG9V1SY[/video]
     
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    Ddyad Well-Known Member

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    Gun control laws encourage gun crime.
     
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    Apparently we have a lot more leopards per capita here in America when compared to many other western nations. While I am not convinced that a firearms ban would solve the problem, I see the speaker in the video as arguing to maintain the status quo. Crime control is nice but limited in effect when a man who has been on a federal terrorist watch list who was possibly also clinically insane was still able to purchase firearms.
     
  4. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I won't assert a right to take your rights if you promise, pinky promise please, not to use your gun in the commission of a crime.

    The gun is not the issue, the leopard is.
     
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    Um, not sure what this has to do with anything I said, but OK.

    I agree. But what is so amazing about the video? From my perspective it is an argument of maintaining the status quo.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK, since we have not changed the constitution, I would expect nothing more.

    My comment that I won't try to remove your rights so long as you honor mine has to do with comments made by you but by man others as well. While using a gun to commit a crime is not legal,neither is using a knife to commit a crime, nor in the case of white collar crime, even the use of the computer is used to commit crimes.
    We never have the media yelling to outlaw knives or computers. YET!!!!!
     
  7. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I appreciate those who thanked my post.

    This is a serious issue. I believe the video was wonderful in laying it all out.

    In magic la la land, there is this government that either disarmed all citizens or ferreted out those who would kill.

    The kind government has federal workers molding the potential killers into fine upstanding citizens.

    Me, I saw the German prison system and from the looks of it, it has enormous merit in that it changes hearts and minds of criminals.

    We don't use a system like theirs. We lock up people in facilities much like a zoo, only we can't spend the weekend gawking at the convicts.

    This is not the Big Rock Candy mountain, where the cops have rubber bullets and the hens lay soft boiled eggs.

    This is tough man country. They steal a loaf, put them behind bars. We treat them more as men got treated under Les Miserable yet not quite that bad.

    Prison reform comes from the people. I don't mean to make crime pay, but at least study the German system.

    [video=youtube;khGmp7MJ2MI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khGmp7MJ2MI[/video]
     
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    I read the book More Guns, Less Crime, by John Lott, Jr.
    Brilliant. Factual. Compelling. Everyone does not have to carry a weapon. That only a few citizens are armed is sufficient to give pause to criminals who don't want to be confronted by someone ALSO carrying a weapon. The crime statistics bear out more guns, less crime. Think Chicago, Washington, D.C., Detroit, and New Orleans. Nevertheless........

    "How might our founders have commented about [the] U.S. Supreme Court's decision upholding our rights to keep and bear arms? Justice Samuel Alito, in writing the majority opinion, said, 'Individual self-defense is the central component of the Second Amendment.' The founders would have responded 'Balderdash!' Jefferson said, 'What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.' George Mason explained, '(T)o disarm the people (is) the best and most effectual way to enslave them.' Noah Webster elaborated: 'Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed. ... The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force, at the command of Congress, can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power, and jealousy will instantly inspire the inclination, to resist the execution of a law which appears to them unjust and oppressive.' Contrary to Alito's assertion, the central component of the Second Amendment is to protect ourselves from U.S. Congress, not street thugs." --economist Walter E. Williams
     
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    Hence any bans on guns is a fear of an Armed Populace, prepared to Defend Against Despots & Tyrants alike.
     

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