Best Evidence of a Conspiracy

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  1. usda_select

    usda_select Active Member Past Donor

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    It certainly is a magical bullet to keep finding flesh like it did; tumbling end over end.

    Emmigrtion, defection, visiting Cuban embassies, arrests, etc… I disagree.

    Strange that they would not re-convene and clear the record.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    No it is not magical at all. The bullet had no where also to go except Connally when it exited Kennedy as that who was RIGHT in front of Kennedy. It was perfectly normal and mundane. Battle field accounts are littered with examples of multiple people being hit by one bullet.

    Once again you are confusing HINDSIGHT with what was known at the time. They knew more about Hinkley.

    Nothing strange about it since the House Select Committee on Assassination was never a permanent committee and ran over budget and over it's projected time limit.
     
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    Its more rare than it is common. Except in this case of course....


    All of which I quoted was prior to the assassination of JFK. That the authorities overlooked it and LHO just happened to be working right along the motorcade route is a bizarre instance in any light.

    Yeah, those guys in Congress worry a lot about budgets.
     
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    The poorly executed (excuse the pun) Warren Commission report itself is empirical de facto proof of a conspiracy. It is so riddled with errors, omissions,
    lies and destruction of evidence it indicts itself.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    No it is not.

    You have been asked many times to names these lies errors and omissions but cannot do so.

    You never read it and have no idea what it says.
     
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    Yeah then who heads up the Warren Commission but Allen Dulles himself. 70% of America believes there was a conspiracy either the Jewish mobsters for closing down Cuba and all their casino or something even more sinister government involvement or both. The Jewish mobsters were obviously involved. Jack Rubinstein (Ruby) killed Oswald. I'm convinced the CIA is also involved because they used the mobsters before for clandestine operations. They still use the Mexican mafia to import their Afghanistan heroin and their Columbian cocanie. Allen Dulles heading up the Warren commission is the only evidence I need to know they were knee deep. The CIA employed Murder Inc. that's all there is to that. **** anyone that says other wise they are obviously a shill.
     
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    Allen Dulles did not head the Warren Commission.

    The Warren Commission was headed by chief justice Earl WARREN hence the name WARREN commission. Warren was not only in charge by name but he was defacto in charge and ran the commission. Dulles did not. Dulles was only on the commission and answered to Warren.

    Shills are imaginary and nothing more than an evasion by those who cannot present a credible argument.

    You have no evidence period and have no idea what any of the evidence proves. You cannot even get the names straight of the people who were involved and in charge of the investigation
     
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    None of that means squat. Just because I was wrong about who headed the cover up commission doesn't mean that you are right. You're just loud mouth troll beating the same drum the cover up commission beats on. Nobody, not even you believe it. You get paid to to pretend that you believe it. I'm not confused about your profession at all. You can read your faux straight from the Warren Commission I still don't believe it. But hey I'm not a programmed d bag that bends the knee to a bunch of ****s like you. When they **** you wipe. That's a crappie job must smell to.
     
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    It means a great deal.

    Yes it means I am right and you are wrong. The commission was not a cover up and you have no evidence that it was. There are no paid shills and as i pointed out the very idea of a paid shill is a childish myth created by uneducated loons in their moms basement who lose arguments to better informed people.

    You ARE in fact programmed to believe conspiracy theories WITHOUT any evidence.

    Yes believe it because unlike the small minded people who screech lies about paid chills I paid attention to the evidence.

    You on the other hand believe such crap as a matter of faith which is the opposite of thinking. You lose every argument every time and you know it
     
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    LOL you opinion means absolutely nothing to me I didn't come here to win any argument. I came here to voice an opinion. Their are many paid shills and you know it i.e. Bill O'Reilly, Shawn Hannity, David Muir, Soupnazi.... the list goes on. What normal everyday person goes on the Internet to defend the government in a case that is over 50 years old? That is rhetorical. Paid scum that beg at the feet of the elites. Some salad tossing, boot licking scumbag that is who. Now where do you fit in the equation? I'm guessing right at the bottom of the list. No need to respond I won't be reading anymore of your paid responses.
     
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    So this is why you have been compelled to respond to my posts. You were getting your arse whipped and needed to find an easier target. Guess that didn't work out so well for you.
     
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    When you put so much time and effort into a post and the person responds with "no its not " then you have to know they are not worth your time and effort. They get paid to say no its not, or not true and when that fails they use personal attacks. They are trolls getting paid to give the impression that there are people that believe the official cover up. That can easily be proven by walking outside and asking random people if they believe the Warren Commission or do they believe something else probably happened. 90% of those everyday people believe it was a conspiracy hands down. Going on the Internet exposes you to the thousands of paid trolls trying discredit the facts against the cover up, and to discredit the person producing them.
    Do you know what they did to the doctor that exposed the concussion problem with professional football players? The techniques used on the good doctor are the exact same ones being used all over the Internet to discredit anyone exposing the cover ups. Is it coincidently the same technique? I know it's not. It's the troll manual word for word. Everyday people don't care enough to read an article about anything. They certainly don't care enough to go online and argue about JFK, 911, Gulf of Tonkin are anything else that happened in the past.
     
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    Someone else just exposed your trolliness lol funnier then all hell. Time to pack up and head to the Alien conspiracy threads. Some place where the facts are in your favor.:)
     
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    No they did not I crushed them with facts and evidence.

    Sorry boy but the others you refer to only provided assertions without evidence
     
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    There was no official cover up.

    The Warren Commission stated a factual proven conclusion supported by evidence.

    Your little experiment means nothing. It is irrelevant and meaningless how many people believe a conspiracy theory. Consensus or mass belief does not establish truth or prove anything.

    There are no paid trolls and in fact the claim that there are is only an evasion when faced with facts proving you wrong.

    Young kids like you hate being embarrassed by facts but you routinely are and so run to the claim of " paid shill paid troll blah blah blah ". Which in and of itself is a stupid assertion you cannot prove.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    No little boy I am not getting whupped I am in fact crushing and destroying you and the other uninformed and uneducated theorists and you know it.
     
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    Someone needs to get their money back as an inept, unsophisticated and clumsy defense of the Warren Commission whitewash
    gets more critics than poor stupid followers any time (not that many people at all venture to this forum). Don't forget Gerald Posner in that list of gutless apologists still trying to sell the Warren Commission fictional version of the JFK killing and cover up.
     
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    Much like the Warren Commission report itself you have never read Gerald Posner's work and have no idea what he wrote.
    You do have that habit of criticizing in absolute ignorance and refusing steadfastly to even look at the other side.
    Cherry picking citations from others who agree with your belief is n very intelligent and it is all you have.'

    You have been asked repeatedly to present evidence for any of your claims and you have failed EVERY time. No one is being paid to correct your fallacies either.
     
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    You can lie about your own unfortunate opinions. You don't get to lie
    about what I have and have not done. What a great insight into how you do business, however,.

    I know more about the issue than you can dream. I've studied it for well over forty years now while it appears your so called "knowledge" of the issue seems to consist entirely of denying whatever you don't like (no matter if it has no basis in fact or not) and parroting whatever the Warren Commission
    set in amber all those years ago.

    I stopped trying to work to present evidence of the facts to someone who simply denies
    matters as elementary as basic physics, let alone anything else, because saying "No it is not" is not an argument....it is a
    childish knee jerk reaction that shuts down discussion and ends all thought (not unlike you).
     
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    I stated truth and it is you lying you have admitted you have never read the warren commission and it is clear you never read Case Closed.
    As usual you accuse them both of lying but cannot point to one such lie or offer a speck of evidence to support your accusation. you have only cherry picked third hand lines form someone you believe and have never bothered to check for yourself. You are speaking in absolute ignorance.

    You have not studied it well and have been proven to be massively ignorant on the subject. For example you have stated many outright falsehoods such as no one being able to recreate the shooting. It has been done many times. Or that it was impossible for Oswald to do it when the evidence massively crushes your claim and proves he had the skill and ability and opportunity.


    You have not presented a single fact you have only presented beliefs hearsay and lies and every time you are asked to support your claims with evidence you DO NOT.
     
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    You must know why you have a well earned reputation as a crank and oddball, to say the least, in this forum. I would have to say
    you have confirmed it once more with a fact free rant that defies credulity.
     
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    No that is al you with such a reputation you have never posted facts I HAVE.

    You have never provided evidence I HAVE.
     
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    Simply untrue. Laughably untrue and frightening if you really think this, which I don't believe.
    I provided citations from ER doctors at Parkland hospital where JFK was first seen by medical experts after the shooting and citations
    from a man who worked for decades in the Ford plant where the president's limousine was taken for cleaning and removal of window and body panels, destroying valuable evidence and deliberately covering up the crime of the century about which, the Warren Commission
    said nothing at all.

    I will not allow such fabrications to go uncontested.
     
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    I stated no fabrications and you have failed to contest facts.

    As I repeatedly pointed out to you the doctors at Parkland were NOT trained investigators or pathologists, they conducted no investigation of any kind and it was not their job to do so. They were emergency room doctors and nurses and nothing else. Their casual observation does not in any way refute or challenge the official autopsy which WAS conducted by trained and experienced experts who conclusively determined and proved that the head wound was caused by a bullet which entered from above and behind Kennedy. That is simple fact which the ER doctors cannot dispute. Their citation is meaningless.

    The presidents limo was not taken to a factory for cleaning the windshield was removed and collected and MAINTAINED as evidence and also provided evidence that all the shots came from behind. The limo is still on display and still intact. You stated it was destroyed and you were proven wrong and nothing refutes that fact.

    The fact is you have never provided evidence or facts but only hollywood fabrications.
     
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    The eye witness testimony of all ER doctors on duty at Parkland hospital (to a man they all noted the huge gaping exit wound in the back of the president's skull) is hardly meaningless unless one is simply prone to fabricate when the truth is inconvenient to an agenda.


    I said evidence was destroyed (and indeed it was). Not the limousine itself, but your "attention to detail" is noted.
    I just wonder if it was intentional or just a habit? You are very wrong as usual in any case.
     

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