Best home defense weapon

Discussion in 'Firearms and Hunting' started by Think for myself, Aug 16, 2011.

  1. Xenamnes

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    The united states military uses rifles for such purposes. Thus the overall length of a shoulder-fired firearm is not that significant of a hindrance.
     
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    If a woman starts with a judge, maybe she'll be happy, and later advance to something better. Plus, it beats the hell out of knife.
     
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    I wouldn't recommend you start anyone with a judge for any reason.
     
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    A lot of people advocate for a shotgun and there is some merit for that. But, what happens if a loved one is held as a shield hostage? Where is the shotgun kept during the day, evening, or at night? Every home, gun owner, and potential defensive scenarios are not the same. There are a lot of factors to consider.
    How big is your home? How many Stories? How many people live with you? How many children and what are their ages? Where are family members likely to be at night, during the day, etc? If you have older children, how likely are they likely to be out and returning at unexpected times without your knowledge? Is your home in an isolated rural, suburban family, urban apartment, etc. setting? How many structures? What is your daytime vs night time vulnerabilities? How many possible access points? Escape avenues? How open is your home layout? Do you have layered security? Do you have a dog or dogs and can predict their behaviors? Where are your lighting controls and can they be remotely controlled by you? What options do you have for baracding and defending from a fixed position? How many guns do you have where? Do your home defense guns have lights, lasers, illuminated red dots?
    If you have a family, have you conducted drills or at least covered what to do in various situations. Of roving teenagers do you have a ‘freindly’ verification system, or system of protocols to follow. If a significant other, do you have a plan for roles and mutual support?
    I usually cover these and many other factors and considerations when I conduct home defense seminars. I find very few people have a plan for what to do in case of fire and almost none that have one for family home defense. Fewer yet, that have been trained to clear a home or have even considered how they might defend from a hide, an in those numbers, few that have given thought on how to minimize their vulnerabilities when transitioning from outside to inside a home, from a garage to the house, etc.
    While many develop some level of situational awareness, take precautions when out and about, most people almost completely relax when home assuming home means safety. But fires do happen, so do burglaries and home invasions. So do teens coming home at 3:30 in the morning.
     
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    I would argue the "semi autos are superior to pumps" statement. There are some good self-loaders out there, but the pump has advantages the auto lacks; namely you can run a far greater variety of shells out of the pump than you can the auto.

    As for needing to be "able to shoulder the weapon properly" I would submit the following from Suarez International....

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    Hes a pro not a normie which 99% of gun owners are. Even the ones that take some training and take it seriously are still normies. I include myself here.

    Not to mention my semi works faster and reloading doesnt bear discussion as it's no contest.
     
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    Do you sit up all night pointing your protection rifle at the front door to stop all your enemies from stealing your TV?

    We don't have that fear in the UK. I know you will default to knives and that tosh but that's just the default usual selection.

    Do you attend local home security conventions to find out about the best secure doors, windows and locks? Or do you just go all out crazy on guns?
     
  8. Xenamnes

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    Can one take their doors, windows, and locks with them when they move from one residence to another? Or must they remain with the building when it is left behind for the new owners to take possession of?
     
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    That's up to the seller, part of the contents list when you sell.
     
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    Dogs, alarm system, outdoor cameras, and lots of guns. My home protection is very well rounded.
     
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    I've become amused by how gun haters act like basic security measures are a sign of some kind of paranoia. Sheep are inevitably desperate to pretend the world is all sunshine and rainbows.

    Home invasions are a major problem in the UK, so you can spare me that "tosh".
     
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    I'd prefer "The Judge".
     
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    A dog, lights, and a phone.
     
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    Dogs ARE essential!
     
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    Do you spend the same amount of effort on securing your house, attending home security conventions and investing in the latest window and door locks as you do with guns?

    This security and protection excuse is a load of crap. You have guns because you like guns. That's the only reason.
     
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    Even if such were a factually correct evaluation of the situation, it ultimately would make no difference from a legal standpoint. Privately owned firearms in the united states are not going anywhere. The only logical course of action available is to accept reality for what it is, stop whining about matters that are not liked, and simply move on.
     
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    I owned a zig and couldn't handle it. Am interested in something simple like a 25 caliber just to keep next to the bed. Thoughts?
     
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    It's not my fault you don't have the intellectual complexity necessary to understand complex issues, so don't project your nonsense on me. You hate guns irrationally, so anyone who doesn't have the same visceral phobic response to guns that you do is, in your mind, somehow mentally defective.

    Your bigotry and prejudice notwithstanding, I have put a great deal of time and energy into creating a fully multi-layered security perimeter to protect myself and my loved ones.

    And I don't apologize for the fact that my life experiences as part of a family of law-enforcement and military people, along with my professional experience as a law-enforcement officer myself, have instilled in me an appreciation of the value of guns as part of a free society and for the enhancement of my personal security. I practice and train with firearms because not only do I enjoy it but because it directly contributes to my ability to protect myself and my family; to say nothing of how it reminds me of precious hours spent around my father and grandfather learning about and shooting firearms.

    Here's the difference between us: You don't like guns and I'm not trying to force you to have them. I own guns and enjoy my hobbies associated with them, and you want to strip me of my right to make a different choice than you.

    You hate guns, but I ain't giving them up just because you've got your panties in a twist over it.
     
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    Oh, and I'm alive today because I had a gun and knew how to use it, so there's that too....
     
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    The .25 ACP is probably the single most useless caliber ever inflicted on the human species. There are far too many stories about people emptying a .25 into an assailant, only to be beaten or stabbed to death while holding an empty .25. You'd be better served with a .22; though that doesn't make the .22 a good choice.

    My personal opinion is that the absolute smallest caliber in a semi-auto should be a 9mm. If you find an auto too much, then I'd recommend getting a steel-framed .38 Special revolver. With the proper loads recoil is minimal but you can still deliver enough power to actually halt a criminal assault.

    If those are still too powerful for you to comfortably handle, Ruger makes a compact, lightweight revolver in .22 Magnum that is at least better than nothing.
     
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    It was the kick upon firing with the Zig. Thanx. Will look at .22 Magnum and .38 special revolver.
     
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    After all these months, you've obviously not listened to what I've said.

    If I repeat it for the 20th time, then it won't be long before I have to repeat it again. For some unknown reason, you've been unable to remember what I've repeated on this issue over the months.
     
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    Pray tell what exactly is a Zig?
     
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    Then perhaps a different course of action is necessary at this point. Perhaps actually saying something relevant and factual for a change.
     
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    Some might see that as a good thing, some might not. I'm on the fence with that one.
     

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