Best home defense weapon

Sorry, I didn't realise you're 6gunner's spokesperson.

By all means, tell me what I've repeated loads of times that makes 6gunner's post irrelevant? I'm interested.

 

It is a public forum. Anyone can reply to anyone in a free and open exchange.

 

Then you should be able to answer my question.

 

It could indeed be answered. But this particular discussion is taking place in a section of the forum that is reserved for firearm-related discussions that do not involve politics. As such the discussion on the part of yourself is off topic and in violation of established forum rules. Kindly cease and desist.

 

It is a public forum. Anyone can reply to anyone in a free and open exchange.

Thank you for dodging the question, speaks volumes. Back to protection rifles.

 

And off-topic responses can be deleted, and the poster punished.

Do try to keep up.

 

Why are you still here then?

Best home defense weapon? Your brain and not feeling paronoid in your own home against the vast number of unknown enemies. Sensible types of guns should be locked in a secure case bolted firmly to a wall with only the owner knowing where the key is. If you still feel frightened, the bark of a dog is a great deterrent and a great family pet. Anyone frightened the dog will savage the family, Jack Russell's are great little dogs.

 

At least one participant in any discussion needs to be able to present logical, coherent points for consideration that are relevant to the discussion at hand.

Owning a firearm is not a symptom of paranoia.

The united state supreme court has already ruled that such cannot be required. Therefore there is no point in discussion such a proposal further.

Canines are as unpredictable as they are unreliable. Some are prone to barking at the slightest provocation, just as some are prone to not reacting to anything at all. One either gets numerous false alarms that will be ignored, or no alarm which renders them useless as a legitimate proposal. Nor can an animal kept as a pet, be regarded as the same thing as an animal kept for security, which is trained for the purpose of being aggressive towards strangers, and such is not a quality one would wish for a family pet when such qualities may be demonstrated against a child. This is to say nothing of the fact that a canine can easily be poisoned by anyone passing by at any given moment of the day. The cost of basic health upkeep is significant, and they possess a shelf life that renders them obsolete after a mere decade.

 

Sig Sauer handgun. Packs a powerful kick upon firing and I bought one. Sold it

 

Assuming you mean a Sig, what model/caliber? Sig makes quite a few, high quality, well designed hand guns. When you say you couldn’t handle it, what does that mean? I trained both my girls with firearms from an early age. In their teens they had access to the gun safe and permission to use any of the guns I owned and were competent with any I had, including some very large cal handguns despite both being petite (under 100lbs). Both always had interest (sort of competition between them) to master any gun. One gun they seemed to enjoy, was my Alaskanized, Ruger Redhawks in .480 before I started leaving it with a friend in the AK. They often took it along to the range, with a few others guns when they went. I always suspected, it was to impress the fellows to shot a gun that intimidated many that heard it’s blast, something they denied...sort of. One married a cop, the other, a fellow twice my and their sizes combined.
Both, now in their 20’s, married, have their own collections, and carry concealed. One, like her da, favors .45s, the other, 9mm.
If my girls can handle what they did/do, anyone can with training and practice. But, a 25acp for home defense? Better than rocks, but most guns chambered for the 25 are small, not great ergonomics, and not designed for accuracy beyond a belly press, usually far inferior to any SIG made. I’d just soon not allow an invader get that close to me.
While I have more than one gun situated a strategic locations in my home, my bedroom gun is an HK45c with a crimson trace trigger guard laser. Most of my guns have night sights, but several have CT trigger guards... good (on demand laser) devices for my aging eyes, though I don’t sacrifice their use for proper sighting technique.

 

Still saying 'dog'.

One very good dog, or two reasonable ones. Don't even have to be obnoxious breeds to be effective, but they do need to be hair-trigger alarm barkers. That puts off would-be crims like nothing else.

In my country, the best security dog you can get is the Blue/Red Heeler. A movement/sound oriented herding breed with good bark, which also has aggressive heeling instincts. They're also INSANELY territorial.

 

I've read what you have to say, and unapologetically dismiss the merits of all of it.

If you don't think an honest citizen winning a life-or-death battle against a violent criminal who attacked him without provocation is a good thing, then we can safely and unapologetically gather that you have nothing of value to contribute to the conversation; now can't we?

 

Dogs are just one element in a proper defensive plan. However, dedicated criminals regularly throw poisoned meat to family pets, or otherwise eliminate them to silence them.

 

.45 caliber. A .38 special has been recommended. I have not been trained in the use of firearms. What do you think?

 

1) Your brain is obviously the best weapon. Without it you don't exist. Its a given and hence, not under discussion. 2) what is under discussion is the best TOOL to use in self defense against another human being bent on doing you harm in your own home.
3) if the door is kicked in, you're not going to have time to run to the safe, and fumble with the key to open it, and then remove the arm. If you're going to run for a hiding place, it should have an accessible arm in it, hidden from view but swiftly accessed without other components which you might not have on you at that time. You won't have time for anything else but to hand the keys you're fumbling with to your attacker so they can empty your safe. 4) Jack Russell's do not have a deep enough bark to scare anyone that doesn't have a phobia of dogs.

 

That's reason enough.

 

You're right.

The more options you have, the better.

In addition to flashlights, knife, firearms & phone on my bedside table, I keep the car "key" that has a car alarm feature.
That way you can activate your car alarm that will distract unwanted night time intruders so you can deal with the threat more effectively.

 

Judge is about the most useless firearm I can imagine. First, it's huge for a .45 LC revolver, and isn't particularly accurate with .45LC. Second, it is not a particularly good shotgun for self defense. The only practical use for it is for shooting snakes around the lake house or fish camp. For self defense against humans, it's just inadequate.

 

I would say find a shooting range and instructor to allow you to try out a variety of firearms and show you how to use them safely. I think either a shotgun (20 or 12 gauge) or .357 magnum (loaded with .38 specials until you learn to handle it better) revolver would probably be your best bets.

 

Go to gun range that rents guns, get help choosing one or more that fit your hand, and get someone to show you how to shoot candidate pistols that fits you, test them to see what might work and then get training. Most gun shops have someone that can help you and often options for training. I do this quite often for an FFL I work with.
Prior to doing that, check You Tube, there are loads of videos on gun safety (absolutely necessary to know), how to choose a gun that fits, how to hold guns properly, how to manage recoil, opinions on various guns, etc.

 

There was a time I would have agreed, and I tended to keep my .357s loaded with full magnums.

However, I recently discovered information that found that with modern ammunition the .38 Special +P will actually perform more optimally than .357. In testing they found the .357 tended to overpenetrate and its velocity causes hollowpoints to expand excessively and fold back on itself; while .38 Special +P expanded perfectly and penetrated to the perfect depth. That enhanced performance includes less blast, and faster shot-to-shot recoveries due to less felt recoil.

 

I'd go with the Remington 870 tactical in 12 gauge, mainly because I grew up shooting 12 gauge pumps and am therefore comfortable with it. Though it only holds seven rounds, each round of oo Buck fires a dozen .33 caliber pellets with lethal force which is equivalent to four or five rounds from a 9 mm, all at once, with each of seven shots, for a total of 84 projectiles.

 

I'm thinking in terms of my own country. That stuff doesn't happen here. A good dog will absolutely stop your average burglar. 100%. They won't even think about trying if there's a barking dog on premises.

 

No it isn't. It would be reason enough if it was a fancy food processor or a piece of lawn furniture. All bets are off when the thing you like is designed to kill.

 

Pointed stick.