Best Places To Hook Off Shore Power Plants In To the U.S. Power Grid

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Yup...that’s where we are headed. The by products of fusion are not the crazy s.h.i.t that conservatives would have you believe.
     
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    Fusion is like China.

    China is the world power of tomorrow.

    And always will be.

    Fusion is 30 years in the future.

    And always will be.

    But you can't run an industrial economy on a bunch of windmills and solar panels. The wind doesn't always blow. The sun doesn't always shine. But nuclear fission plants can run pretty much continuously for decades or longer.
     
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    Launch vehicles (rockets) are not "unknown". They simply have not been refined to sufficient efficiency and reliability.

    At one time motor vehicles and trains were not of sufficient reliability and efficiency either, but now we use both to transport both nuclear fuel and nuclear wastes.
     
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    Why an energy source whose waste has to be launched into the sun at a huge cost when we have the science and technology TODAY to have renewable dependent. Pellet stoves are Co2 neutral. Wind farms and solar collectors and fresh water generation capabilities are all here now. The only thing getting in the way, is the GOP politics of extracting as much money from society as possible.

    Btw, we already had planes trains and boats. Btw, do you know how mych sending nuclear waste into the sun would cost ? It cost $10k per pound just to put material into orbit.
     
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    I'm more than confident that the cost per pound of launches into orbit will inevitably drop by several orders of magnitude. Just as other transportation methods have had their costs per pound plummet.

    How can you not get that?
     
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    That’s wrong.only two segments of our industrial economy needs large concentrations of power...manufacturing and transportation. . Everyother aspect can be served by renewables.
     
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    When we get to that point THEN AND ONLY THEN, should we consider hair brained ideas of building hundreds of fission plants.
    There are some attempts to make small fission generators that are safe, local and with minimal radiation concerns, when that day comes, and only then, will nuclear fission power be a consideration,
     
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    Btw, how much do you use math ?
     
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    Daily. I've taught it as well.
     
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    Fasle.

    Dirty nukes are easy to make. And in fact, the very first bombs were "dirty" bombs. As nukes got more developed, we made them cleaner and cleaner. Russia had no such concerns.

    We saw that with the tzar bomb. If the Tzar bomb was detonated on ground level, it would have produced more radiation than all nuclear tests before it combined!

    So to avoid an international incident, they tested it 2 miles in the air to minimize the fallout.

    If coastal area(like around Norfolk or San Diego) was ever hit by a dirty bomb, it would make that entire area unusable. Both areas are major shipping hubs as well.

    To make an entire coastal area unusable by irradiating it is not a war winner? What is then?
     
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    How far ?
     
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    6th grade. Why does it matter?
     
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    It matters plenty. 6 th grade math is basic math and the beginning of what is needed to function in daily life. It neither proves nor disproves science.
     
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    What about a mobile power plant?
     
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    That's what I've been talking about. You couldn't be bothered to read a relatively short thread?
     
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    I really couldn't, catchy thread title though.
    How far are you along in doing your mobile power plant?
     
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    I'm a teacher. Not an engineer.
     
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    The entire concept of a "Mobile/floating power plant really makes no sense. A power plant is meant to serve a population and that population is stationary....it they need more power they build another plant. The safety and maintaining alone make the whole idea bad.
     
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    Because, math is the language if science, wth algebra being established in 820 AD, Calculus by Newton in the 1700s. So bascally , if your level of understanding is restricted to those maths, your level of understanding of science is severely limited too. People who are the biggest conspiracy theorist are often those who have the least math knowledge. That is , because their level of acceptance of ligitimate science is beyound their understanding.

    It’s sad, but true. We have people who don’t know calculous and higher math who are easily swayed by others to believe the weirdest conjectures of the simplest things to a scientist.
     
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    The concept was to get nuclear plants available that would be less subject to local objections. As stated up thread.
     
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    I hope you're promoting science and math education well beyound what you did...otherwise, it is a form of educatonal abuse to not promote what science has agreed on in every level.
     
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    Not knowing enough math and science makes anyone’s suggestion in any area highly suspect unless you’re referencing the ideas of scientists that do now.
     
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    You didn't read post #7 to know that the Russians have already put the concept into practice?
     
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    There would be even more objection to a floating nuke off the coast.
     

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