BET founder Robert Johnson calls for $14 trillion of reparations for slavery

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  1. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    The Republicans wouldn't lie? What does the GOP have to offer them? Have they been seeking the black vote? What party does all the skin heads and neo-Nazis vote for?
    That's lashing out, similar to rioters or looters? Don't cry.
    If there was no legacy of slavery there would be no reason to complain, but there is. A typical white family has a net worth of 171k, a black family 17k. Are you going to chalk that up to the race is inherently stupid, lazy and can't keep it in their pants?
     
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  2. Moriah

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    I am not lashing out. I am exposing your hypocrisy. Folks like you love to tell African-Americans what they need to do. But, you completely overlook all the morally corrupt things Whites have done to put African-Americans in the predicament they are in.
    Either tell the whole story or don't tell none of it.
     
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    Never said what you implied. But please explain what white people have to do with the extreme single parent household problem? Look at the numbers now compared to the 60s. The only thing that has influenced it is welfare when a certain party tried to replace the father with a govt check. What other racist excuse would you like to use to explain it away? What actions do white peoples take a regular basis that impacts the sadly, irresponsible sexual activity of some people? Or do you think it’s not big deal and hs no impact on the well beibn of children that there is such a disparity there?
     
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    What hypocrisy? What have ordinary white people done after the 60s to “force” Black people to give up on the nuclear family? Some black leaders have tried to bring up this issue and they have been shouted down. This is NOT a white people problem.

    What’s next? You’ll blame racism for the disparity in Covid deaths? Might want to explain why the UK has very similar numbers. Unless the UK is also a racist country? These are facts. But sometimes facts are hard to read. I know.
     
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  5. Moriah

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    Why was out of wedlock birth among African-American women Not an issue during slavery time? You know, when slave women were having all those little mulatto babies? Nobody cared about out of wedlock babies then. Especially not White men.
     
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    You mistake me for someone else if you think I am criticizing without cause.

    I criticize whites even harder than blacks. Unfortunately thin-skinned liberals resent this. Read my footer memo. I've been irritating liberals for decades. It's fun and it keeps me out of pool halls, brothels and places where comic books are sold. But I digress.

    ANYONE who is a Democrat needs to reevaluate their entire view on life. Hot topics which draw one member's wrath here in particular (*SNORK*) include ABORTION (emphasis added!) as are other hot-topic no-no's which the left refuses to address. Democrats and violence, for example. Riots when losers can't get their way.

    Why aren't blacks rioting for better education, instead of approving the repatriation of a big TV? And if blacks want to run things, remember (and it will be after about 2050) --- majority rules. Have babies you can afdford and it will all work out.

    The right is *IN* the right about not killing future taxpayers. Democrats don't get that part. Think on it.

    Democrats don't like kids much anyway if they let public schools get as bad as they now are...and in black areas that is simply, totally, unacceptable. You want a piece of a white guy wanting better ed for blacks, then by all means leap.

    You accuse me of "always" criticizing blacks? Others here point things out like keep it in your pants, don't buy sell or use drugs. The usual white jive American blacks have ignored for years, even from other blacks, and you damn well know it. In truth, self-restraint is a human issue transcending pigmentation. I do not believe I am racist for saying whites AND blacks can use a whole lot more self-control, especially this week in America.

    I lived through the 50s. All of it. I know precisely what Jim Crow meant and I have seen southern cracker cops at play with a black guy just walking down the street. I have worked for black-owned companies (good and bad) and yes, snork all you want, live in a county where there are fewer than 1% blacks, and I actually do have black friends. That doesn't mean I'll grab a BLM poster and march in support of thugs. Never!

    I know the Old South. It is gone and blacks won't forget it. It is a scar and a stain and yes it must be remembered as the time America caught wise about what constitutes American citizenship and the rights thereof. Hell no, we are not perfect. The state rep from my area wore a Confederate flag bandana to a state-house meeting. The photo made the news, rightly so. Worthless chump deserved the flack.

    I also live near Ann Arbor, the town that launched Michigan's recreational marijuana initiative voters passed by a wide margin. It ain't all hard left or crazed camo-clad forest-dwellers around here, just sort of let-live. True, only 1% black, but strong progressives on village and city councils --- all furious they can't spend us into municipal bankruptcy.

    Why should you remain a Democrat is a far better question than why you should become a Republican.

    How many white Dems have paid off on promises? How long have Dems of any race run your city? Isn't 40 years or more (in MANY cases!) a bit too long without some fresh ideas? Dems hate term limits. They want to rule us --- and the collective, despised "you people!" --- and never ever let go.

    I am sorry if this hurts to read this, but they've swindled blacks through a relentless stream of lies and propaganda and it's time you thought about change. Again I ask, what have the Congressional Black Caucus achieved except draw salaries?

    The true measure of civility is self-control. Spending priorities for example. Why can't blacks save money to put schools RIGHT instead of let it die by degrees? Why is it always someone else must pay? Property taxes? Why not look at how many seizures are done because people simply squatted rather than meet societal standards. Taxes are not black and not white. Pay some and see schools improve.

    Why support the rioters and their stealing without being complicit? The collective silence of Democrats strongly suggests approval for any or all of it. Silence makes that even worse than the knee-job FORMER cop who ignited this mess. Since when is receiving stolen goods (or getting those goods yourself) any sign of societal maturity? Why aren't the black ELECTED leaders out there screaming for an end?

    Always? I just ask the uncomfortable questions a lot.
     
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    You might want to ask the Democrats why they did all that in the first place? Then ask them why they created Jim Crow laws and why they lynched black folks and why they created the KKK to keep black from voting and why the Democrats fought segregation and had to be forced to segregate and why they created ghettos. One day it was like magic. Johnson signed one civil rights bill, that the Republicans had been pushing for, and all of a sudden the Democrats were the best friends of the blacks and all was forgotten and now blacks still fall for the crap that the Democrats pipe up their asses and vote for them and not getting crap for it while forgetting that it was the Democrats that screwed them in the first place.




    The Democratic Party’s Two-Facedness of Race Relations
    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-democratic-partys-two_b_933995


    Here is where you might post something stupid like, "It's different now" or something like that while still complaining about what was done to blacks in the past and still sidestepping who did it to the blacks in the first place, again. It's a vicious and fruitless circle but keep voting for Democrats.
     
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    Actually, racism does play a part in the disproportionate COVID 19 death rate amongst people of color. Thank you for recognizing this.
     
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    Only a person who is ignorant of US history would think Democrats were the only slaveowners and racists in America.
    Please read and study a little history and get back to me.
    Thank you.
     
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    And how many Republicans are elected to city councils? It does not happen. You never get both sides in a liberal town with liberal media telling you what to think. You'd never WANT to vote GOP based on lies leftist JournoLists (historical reference) have foisted on us.

    (Did you know each and every Republican from age six on up has their very own basement torture chamber for black trespassers, and enough guns for an armory? That we file our teeth and carry a lynch noose in one pocket and a well-thumbed copy of Uncle Bugeyes' Kampfing-out treatise in the other? --- well? Didja?!?!?)

    My golly, you'd think we'd load them onto trains or hand them blankets with cholera or something, the way they act about us ofays suggesting they tone it down. NO sense of humor.

    At the national news level, plenty of Democrat-run former White House officials like Tingles Matthews suddenly became respectable news commentators --- or married them. It's one-sided jive from a media which WANTS us smelling blood so they can print big bold headlines like the lunatic publisher in that Bond film. Like the song says, "Give us something we can use. Give us dirty laundry."
     
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    Black deaths have substantially higher number of preexisting conditions including diabetes, heart issues and poor exercise regimens. Any disproportionate death rate is not a racist issue.
     
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    Since neither you nor I were there at that time, why ask us? But since you appear to not understand slavery, out-of-birth wedlock was the norm unless the specific slave-couple had married under an African-based ritual. Other than that all births were out of wedlock. The babies were now slaves themselves.
     
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    Many times the pre-existing conditions are the result of poverty that is a by product of racism. So, it is a racist issue.
     
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    I have read history. The modern slaves are blacks who vote Democrat.
     
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    Poverty is NOT "a product of racism." Get off the couch and find a job. There are plenty out there hiring, DESPITE layoffs in other industries from the Democrat-run COVID-19 fraud. Oh? Can'\t find a clean shirt and Mom won't wash one for you? Not racism either. Laziness. White children have that also.
     
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    Thank you for pointing out just one of the horrible cruelties of slavery. African slaves were not even allowed to marry or have any say o over their own children.
    Slave husbands also couldn't keep the White slavemasters from raping and impregnating their wives.
     
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    Then I guess you are one of those people who read history the way you want to read it, rather than the way it is.
    For your information: Republicans are no better for African-Americans than Democrats.
    I don't play the Democrats vs. Republicans game.
     
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    The topic was reparations so that was the relevance. But if you do not agree there is relevance we can end this exchange.
     
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    That is $318,181 (roughly) for 44 million african americans.

    A family of 4 would get $1.25 Million dollars.

    I mean... that's just stupid.
     
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    The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim.

    And how many surviving slaves are there?

    It's odd to me that asians who came to this country ended up being slave labor working to build the railroads, they were imprisoned OPENLY for being Japanese and for no other reason... and yet in 2020 Asians are generally highly regarded and contributing members of our society.

    Hmm..
     
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    What is stopping black people from getting out of poverty? Just do good and school and move out of those ****ed up cities. Doing good in school is not difficult. Maybe try studying instead of watching TV or whatever else black kids do these days. Spend time in a library. There are **** tons of scholarships available to minorities. Take advantage of them. Join the military. They will give you training that can be used for a great paying career, as well as pay for an education. So what exactly is keeping black people from doing any of this and bettering themselves? Nobody alive today was a slave or even remembers anyone who was a slave. there is no more segregation. There is absolutely nothing keeping you down except yourselves.
     
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    No, you said what I "implied". You chalk up the 10 to 1 net worth disparity to "them not keepin' it in their pants" and not having enough sense to know it, so take the advice of this here whitey who just ignored hundreds of years of institutional racism.
     
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    In our overly litigious society, some believe that wrong-doing can be rectified with financial compensation. In fact, there's a whole industry built around it ("You may be entitled to compensation"). Rest assured, no amount of money can undo years of suffering and misfortune, nor can it bring back the dead. I encourage everyone to look beyond today's materialism as a solution to anything. Money is not the most important thing. Did everyone forget that?
     
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    African Americans have used all your helpful hints to get out of poverty. You do know there are a lot of middle class blacks? So what is keeping some of them in poverty? Could it be difficulty getting a bank loan? Could it be structural racism in employment? Could it be ghettoizing housing which leads to high proportion of needy students in their schools? Could it be the difficulty of taking on student loans coming from poverty? Could it be that black juveniles are more likely to have formal charges brought against them for the same offence as a white juvenile and then have a criminal record? Could it be people living in poverty can't afford a lawyer? Could it be the loss of blue collar jobs? Could it be that no where in America can a person working full time at minimum wage can afford rent? Shall I go on?
     
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    AND don't forget the airline ticket to a foreign land.
     

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