BET founder Robert Johnson calls for $14 trillion of reparations for slavery

yeah capitalism it's brilliant works. High tide raises All ships.

In socialist systems the poor starve to death. In the United States they're dying from complications of overindulgence... The poor who are actually the top 1% wealthiest people in the world. Somehow they can afford vices like alcohol and cigarettes. And they are fat.

 

I have no idea how old you are but if your parents came over from Viet Nam ask them what it is like to live under communism. I'm sure they can tell you about the "killing fields in Cambodia".

My Republican uncle went off to war to fight for the freedom of Korea of caught a spray of bullets from a communist North Korean or Chinese machine gun nest.

I spent 4 tours, each 9 to 11 months, on an ammunition ship in the Tonkin Gulf fighting for freedom of the Vietnam people. So I really don't need a lesson in insight.

That Kekistani leader has a funny way of ignoring institutional racism. First he surveyed the landscape and seen where others had made bad trade deals and undermined the economy of it's people. So he embarked on a campaign to undo those deals and re-negotiate deals that favored all his people of all races. Second: He seen that no longer could we be the protector of the world and pay the most costs. He no longer was interested in sending our young men and woman off to fight in lands that were not theirs. Third: He jawboned corporations to bring jobs back to America. He went to places like Detroit and set up enterprise zones in depressed areas. Forth: He met with black leaders and helped get a overhaul of the criminal justice system and establish fairer sentencing laws. Fifth: He rolled back regulations on business, which spured the economy, allowing the lowest un-employment rate in 50 years, lowest unemployment rate for woman, minorities, and all sectors of society. He did all these even though he was being attacked by the so called Normie's and SJW's.

Then came the Corona virus which put a halt on everything. It could have been a lot less worse than it has been if the communist Chinese had been honest from the beginning. So that's all the insight I don't have at the moment. I'm sure you could enlighten me. I'm a strong believer in the Herbert Spencer quote " The roadblock to all knowledge is contempt prior to investigation".

 

The truth hurts

 

I was referring to overall.

 

A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing. With unrestrained capitalism you get gated communities, a rich oligarchy controlling the economy and the masses living in poverty.
Every native ethnicity that adopts a western diet then suffers from obesity, diabetes, heart disease and hypertension, diseases they had not previously suffered from to any degree. That is true of Native Americans, Inuit, Polynesians, aborigines and those of African decent.

My god who is defending failed communism and Trump is a visionary!? This just gets more ridiculous. The stable genius is an incompetent sociopath who conned his way into office through demagoguery. Again you demonstrated a lack of insight.

Maybe your momie can kiss it?

 

Yeah that's why we have a government and a constitution.

Because they've never had that kind of abundance.

This is a first world problem. First world brought to you by capitalism.

How many of them starve to death?

 

I can see by your reply Edna, to everyone who has answered you, you would rather have a put down session instead of civil dialogue. Be careful what you wish for. If you would offer solutions instead of vitriol maybe some of us can take you seriously. The problem is not how the jackass got in the ditch but how to get 'em out. Send us your insight; were all waiting.

 

You're still not getting it, restrained capitalism can raise all ships and those are the particular policies you think we can do without. Institutional racism has not raised all ships. A new study shows racial profiling in job hires has not improved in the last 25 years for example. The same resume was used with a "black" name or a "white" name being the only difference. The inadequate public transportation in most cities makes getting to work difficult and owning a car is unaffordable or if it breaks down the mechanic wants $400 you don't have and you either take out a payday loan (@400% annual interest) or lose your job....

A stable native population did not starve to death except in extreme situations. Their metabolisms are not prepared to handle the amount of cheap simple sugars that make up the western diet.

I must apologize for finding your opinions laughable.

 

I find your omission of answers to solutions normal for most who think like you. The brush you paint with is too broad and blurs the whole mosaic. Smaller brushes produce a more defined picture and clarity.

 

no I get it what you're saying isn't that complex.

our capitalism is restrained by the Constitution.

and it's also conspiracy theory.

Seems a bit racist in the surveyor's part to suggest there are black names.

 

Then you should have stated it that way.

 

Exactly. It all depends on the drive of the individual, not the conditions they grow up in. Some Uber rich kids become junkies and losers, and some poor kids grow up to be brain surgeons. Some kids thrive BECAUSE they grew up in shitty conditions.

The only blame for not succeeding in life lies with the individual, not society.

 

This one always makes me laugh. You know all kinds of diets are available at all grocery stores, right? You don’t have to eat cheeseburgers, potato chips, and fried foods only. Very healthy foods are available for very cheap. Once again, this is the individuals problem for making bad choices, not society.

 

Speaking of broad brush strokes the right-wingers on here are artists. The legacy of slavery doesn't seem to exist. The African American dilemma is self induced. They can't keep it in their pants and all they need to do is use a little more elbow grease. Bootstraps BS is the broad brush stroke. I already cited that racial profiling in job hiring has not improved. Did you know the mean net worth of black college graduates is less than white high school graduates? Bootstraps will only get you so far.

Solutions are out there, but they may cost tax money, so the right says forget about it and just keep pulling on those bootstraps.

The single biggest purchase of a lifetime and a major source of wealth for most is buying a house which has been suppressed in the black community. 42% of African Americans own a home versus 72% of whites. A country less rich than ours, Romania, has the highest home ownership in the world through government intervention. Black college graduates cannot afford down payments on homes because of student loan debt and their families lack the wealth to help them unlike white families.

Children from poverty are more likely to enter school with poor vocabulary, undiagnosed learning disabilities, never been exposed to structured learning, are treated differently by teachers and thus more likely to fail in school. High quality preschool starting at 2 or 3 could prepare the child to learn and diagnose any disabilities.

I could go on and on with solutions like microloans to small business. forgiving student debt, free technical school, medicare for all, Infrastructure investment in depressed neighborhoods, not ghettoizing section 8 housing....

What does the right have?

https://www.federalreserve.gov/econ...-the-survey-of-consumer-finances-20170927.htm

 

Now your talking Edna. A bird with a broken right wing favors going to the left and a bird with a broken left wing favors going to the right. A bird with two wings has balance and favors flying above all the rest.

There is a legacy of slavery .Though Portugal was the first to buy slaves out of Africa, Spain was the first country to send them to America.
The first slave ship to land in Colonial America went to Jamestown, Virginia, in August 1619. The name of the first African slave ship out of the United States was Desire, which sailed out of Massachusetts eighteen years later. Over the next 200 years, around 600,000 more slaves were brought to the American colonies, most of them to work the tobacco and cotton fields.

Prior to 1655 there were no legal slaves in the colonies, only indentured servants. All masters were required to free their servants after their time was up. Seven years was the limit that an indentured servant could be held. Upon their release they were granted 50 acres of land. This included any Negro purchased from slave traders. Negros were also granted 50 acres upon their release.

Anthony Johnson was a Negro from modern-day Angola. He was brought to the US to work on a tobacco farm in 1619.
When Anthony was released he was legally recognized as a “free Negro” and ran a successful farm. In 1651 he held 250 acres and five black indentured servants. In 1654, it was time for Anthony to release John Casor, a black indentured servant. Instead Anthony told Casor he was extending his time. Casor left and became employed by the free white man Robert Parker.

Anthony Johnson sued Robert Parker in the Northampton Court in 1654. In 1655, the court ruled that Anthony Johnson could hold John Casor indefinitely. The court gave judicial sanction for blacks to own slave of their own race. Thus Casor became the first permanent slave and Johnson the first slave owner. Whites still could not legally hold a black servant as an indefinite slave until 1670.

By 1699, the number of free blacks prompted fears of a “Negro insurrection.” Virginia Colonial ordered the repatriation of freed blacks back to Africa. Many blacks sold themselves to white masters so they would not have to go to Africa. This was the first effort to gently repatriate free blacks back to Africa. The modern nations of Sierra Leone and Liberia both originated as colonies of repatriated former black slaves.
However, black slave owners continued to thrive in the United States.

By 1830 there were 3,775 black families living in the South who owned black slaves. By 1860 there were about 3,000 slaves owned by black households in the city of New Orleans alone.

Congress voted to abolished the slave trade in 1807 and made it a crime punishable by death in 1820.

https://www.history.com/topics/black-history/slavery
https://www.thoughtco.com/african-slavery-101-44535
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_slave_trade
https://www.britannica.com/topic/transatlantic-slave-trade
https://answersafrica.com/8-most-horrific-and-inhuman-black-slaves-punishment-in-the...

Understand this please, sometimes we have to revisit the past to get a understanding of the events today. There is enough "mans inhumanity to man" to be spread along among us all. The other side of the coin is that not all are quilty. This Nation fought a war were thousands died to right an injustice. I know this is long but it is a start. More than willing to explore the rest of your post. Looking forward to your thoughts.

 

Some tropes and then a history lesson that has no real bearing on the issue of the legacy of slavery. A legacy is something handed down from the past. It is what came from the history of slavery. It is Jim Crow laws, red lining, racism, racial profiling, chronic poverty, over incarceration, a culture that mistrusts and is abused by the police. Those kind of things are the "legacy" of slavery.

Then at the end you say well not everybody's guilty. No, that is totally not the point. The construction of society in the past has been abusive to an entire race and it continues to suffer from it. Now maybe we should do something about it. I tried to take you seriously.

 

Thank you for this history lesson. You only left out a few things that help explain why Africans were chosen to be chattel slaves, while Whites were not.
Bacon's Rebellion in Virginia from 1676-1677, convinced the rich landowning colonists that they couldn't depend on White indentured servants labor. They needed long term slaves to do their work---slaves who were powerless and who could be owned.
Also, there were several onerous slave laws put into place during the late 1600s to clearly define the differences between White indentured servants and African slaves. The legal status of Whites was elevated, while the legal status of Africans was degraded.
Early colonial history is fascinating!

 

So what?

It will NEVER Happen.

He might as well be "calling for" World Peace and an End to World Hunger.

If he is going to "call for" things that have ZERO Chance (of actually happening) he might as well dream big.

 

You are right. I didn't leave it out. I left reference which had all that information. I just did not want to make the post to long. There is much to discuss. I was just giving reference to how it came about. Feel free to join in and insert your imput.. Edna references institutional racism. My point is we need to understand the past to be able to tackle the future. We all have a lot to learn.

 

How will they determine who is black?

 

And in 'decades', there will be no possible way to know who is and who isn't black (there isn't any chance of that now, without using extremely racist criteria), so it's just a pipe dream. A very very ugly one.

 

Didn't those Japanese THEMSELVES suffer?

 

1) Utter bull. In America today, it's NON-WHITES who are at the top of the economic/professional/academic tree. South Indians practically own Silicon Valley, and many many more save your life in hospitals. Nigerians and Kenyans are cardiologists, and lawyers, and dentists, and Professors. And that's without even working through Chinese, Japanese, and Korean Americans. Catch up, girl!

2) So they should know not to eat it. It has the same impact on Asian metabolisms, but there are a lot fewer obese Asian Americans, than there are black and native Americans.

 

Are you wanting justice or are you wanting revenge? If you want to make your case that all things are true, then do so. How many of these young people Edna have any idea what is really happening? Or should I say an understanding? Just ask some of them what was "Jim Crow"? What is "red lining"? What is the legacy of slavery? Don't be surprised if you get that "deer in the headlight look". There is no denying that their is racism. Always has been and always will be. Not right, but a fact. A few racist's though are not the problem, when it comes to the overall demise of black America. Donald Trump is not black Americas demise. Whitey is not black Americas demise. There are some things America does need to do to work for solutions. It is small compared to what black America needs to do for itself.

 

I just saw PETA commercial. They want to save helpless animals using other people’s money.

Sounds very similar to what libs want with blacks. Very similar.