Beto: 'We Don't Have Time' For Medicare-For-All

Crash and burn, Beto. That's what happens when you choose donors over voters.

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Beto was echoing Hillary Clinton's infamous rant that Medicare-For-All "will never come to pass!"



Another corporate Democrat opposing Medicare-For-All and a Progressive who supports it. One is booed. The other is cheered.

Tulsi Gabbard points out the weasel words used by politicians who try to fool people into believing they support Medicare-For-All.

 

They are just trying to separate themselves from the pack.

Hard to do for them.

 

Hahaha! Beto is toast. Here is the real Democrat dream team:

 

How about car insurance for all?

What about housing for all?

What about food for all?

What about gas, electricity for all?

What about free wifi for all?

If President Trump is reelected and we had single payer, do you want President Trump in control of your medical care?

Women fought for the medical right to privacy so that they can have access to safe legal abortions. Now what kind of privacy will you have when the government has access to your entire medical history?

Why is it people who consider President Trump to be a tyrant and a dictator have no problem taking away choices regarding which medical coverage they want to pay for if any, taking away all freedom of choice not just for the individual Americans, but every single medical professional is astounding to me.

The government has no right to tell me I must buy a product I don't want to buy. Likewise, government has no right to tell every person in the various fields of medicine, you will work for the government and the government only.

That's authoritarianism. That's tyranny. That's a dictatorship.

 

You object to having housing, food, power, and wifi? You meant to say free food, housing, and power.

You know, like government housing, food stamps, emergency aid... and free wifi, which is already here in some areas.

That doesn't bother me nearly as much as having him in charge of nuclear weapons.

Show me examples of lives ruined by government conspiracies because they have medicare.

Because it will be much cheaper. And trump will be gone soon.

And insurance companies already control your doctor. But they only care about profit. The government isn't driven by profit.

You have no right to tell me I have to be raped by money-grubbing insurance companies who actually do have death panels.

No, government insurance isn't tyranny. That is just deluded paranoia. In fact medicare has been one of if not the most successful and popular government program in the history of the country.

 

Why is it that folks defend Trump when his companies are found hiring illegals, saying that he doesn't actually do the hiring and managing of the people...but then suggest that Trump will be responsible for people's medical care if single payer becomes law of the land?

 

Just read the replies here.

Absolutely no self awareness. If taxpayers are paying for it, it's not insurance. There's no such thing as government insurance.

 

Medicare for all isn't the only path to universal healthcare. We can also expand Obamacare and the public option.

 

Who cares what it is called? And everyone already pays for what health insurance there is now. Companies raise the price of the products we buy to pay for their employees health insurance. The government gives them a 30% tax break to the company and a 15-30 percent tax break to the individual employee deduction being pre tax. So that is 40% of the cost is subsidised by the government tax revenues. This leaves a guy making 50,000 working for a company not offering insurance paying taxes subsidising someone else's insurance and paying more money for products because the manufacturer passing those costs on to the consumer.

 

I don't understand why anyone thinks it is a good idea to give 15% of the healthcare money spent to insurance companies. That money should go to providers not salesman, claim takers and advertising and profits. Large Dr offices of say 5 doctors need two billing coders to handle 12 different insurance companies paperwork.

 

This problem can easily be solved with a public option with government subsidies and public non-profit hospitals.

 

I don't want the government owing hospitals or providers working for them, except maybe visiting nurses. Up here in Mass all the hospitals are non profit.

 

In nearly every developed nation, the government owns a portion of hospitals, another portion is private non-profits, and another is private for-profits. This system works pretty well and provides a nice variety of services. The government hospitals tend to be cheaper and more cost effective, better for basic care and the government doesn't have to negotiate prices and haggle over prices with them. The private hospitals are there for more expensive care and more rare cases. A good example are public hospitals in Singapore which are famous for their quality and cost effectiveness.
https://www.guidemesingapore.com/bu...get-to-know-singapore/healthcare-in-singapore

 

I think government facilities in rural areas could be helpful. So many small hospitals are closing in those areas, or maybe a higher reimbursement rate.

But overall I think privately owned hospitals and private providers is the way to go. What I would like to see is a benefit where there is a health savings account combined with small deductibles and co pays. What you don't use in your HSA you get rebated to you. I want advertised prices from doctors and all providers. Credits can be added for using the most efficient system. Go to a CVS min clinic- no deductible or co pay, go to a walk in- deductible, go to a emergency room deductible and co-pay.

I would have all medical schools increase enrollment by 5% per year or not receiving government research grants.
That would give us close to 2/3rds more doctors over 10 years. If doctors choose to, I would forgive student loans for a period of time worked in needed areas. Similar to what the armed forces do, but for more time. The service gives you one year reimbursement for every year of enlistment, For my scenario, this would be 2 years of civilian service for every year of reimbursement..

I would give credits to people who keep family members home during hospice and during medical rehab. So that the husband/wife could afford to stay home from work and take care of the person with visiting nurse type assistance, instead of paying $5000 or more a week.

 

All I hear is, " I want nanny state tyranny government to take care of me"

 

it could, but only if dems take full control of congress and the Presidency with members that want it, the people have to vote for it

 

And what % gets paid to the legal drug dealers selling for big pharma.
I mean, we have a heroine, er opiate, epidemic that is legal. And being pushed by the legal drug cartels.

But if one is black and has a joint on them, 10 yrs in jail.

 

"Cut Pharmaceutical and Insurance companies out of the drafting of the Bill" What is Tulsi thinking ?- these are the folks that write the bills. If these companies don't do it - that would mean our elected leaders would have to do it - and we can't have that.

Most of our elected leaders are serving the Oligopolies and not the interests of the citizens. Unfortunately - elected leaders such as Tulsi Gabbard who oppose this practice are far and few between.

 

It is the best way by far.

 

How about getting a grip and realizing that we spent 3.5 Trillion on healthcare in 2017. Spouting out platitudes is not going to change this fact.

Obamacare did nothing to address the systemic issues that underlie these huge costs (one of the main ones being private for profit - along with all the nasty things that come along with this system - Oligopolism, Price Fixing, anti competitive practices and so on).

Those that want to repeal Obamacare have suggested nothing to address these systemic issues either - Sans the one's touting single payer.

Since this is the only valid attempt to address the systemic issues related to high healthcare costs - and you do not agree with this - what do you suggest ?

 

Yeah, the free market. As technology advances, costs will go down. One good way to kill technological advances is to give control of our lives and our health to a tyrannical government.

 

Whether you agree with them or not, those two guys UNDERSTAND politicians, their deceptions, and their techniques for deflection of a question.

Those two guys are politically savvy and see through those politicians’ bs.

I am often infuriated by Republicans for the exact same reasons.

Two more things ....

Another example of why Tulsi Gabbard outclasses every other Democrat in the field.

And ...

You want Medicare for all? Ok, let’s do the hard part. Let’s talk about how we pay for it, in full, with no deficit spending.

 

Absurd platitudes that have been spouted for decades is not the solution. We have Oligopolies engaging in price fixing and anti competitive practices and other nefarious activities. Your "free market" diatribe addresses none of these issues and only serves to exacerbate them by ignoring the problem.

One good way to kill technological advances is the publicly traded corporation.

 

" Government run healthcare..."