I have been watching BBC news and read the UK-based magazine The Economist, which had two "in-depth" articles about the riots and possible consequences on society. I have to say, I am very dissappointed, and somewhat disturbed, by the fact that neither the televised news, nor the magazine, made even one mention to "muslims" or "immigrants". How can the media pretend to have "in-depth" coverage of the riots without even mentioning the fact that most of rioters were muslim immigrants? The film and pictures of the riots were selectively chosen to obscure the faces of the rioters. Most of the video was from a distance, or was out of focus enough to blur details of the rioter's faces. One picture in the magazine showed a rioter with gloves, a kerchief around his face, and a baseball cap that was angled down, almost completely hiding the view of his face that was not covered by the kerchief. Essentially, almost none of his skin was vissible in the photograph, so it would not be very apparent to someone looking at the picture that the rioter was African. Watching unedited video of the rioters, which the media refuses to show, it is obvious that almost all of them have darker skin. One of the news programs managed showed video of a lone white "rioter", probably one of the only rioters out there with white skin. It is doubtful he started any of the fires or actually destroyed any property; he was probably just an opportunist wanting to steal a big screen televission during the chaos. If you look at any of the crowds or rioters, all the faces are black. Some of the media commentators even went so far as to say the riots had "absolutely nothing to do with ethnicity or religion". Televission viewers and newspaper readers who learn about details of the riots could easily come away without gaining any clue about who the rioters really were, or what their real motivations were. It seems that race and religion have become forbidden topics now in the mainstream British media. One is left to wonder what else the media is refusing to discuss. This thread is, of course, not in any way to imply that most muslim immigrants are criminals, or that darker-skinned people are more inclined to committ crime. But the problem is that the media is effectively censoring the relevant issues to support an agenda. It is one thing to advocate for an ideology by making commentary on, and interrpreting the facts in a certain way. But it is quite another to decieve the public by omission, by covering events while intentionally leaving out important facts, and going out of their way to show revealing pictures. [Removed some pasted paragraphs at copyright holder's request. -Admin] The prime minister wants to place limits on the use social media sites like Twitter and Facebook to prevent the spread disorder. Should this excessive government control over the spread of information not be concerning? [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibjYRM7amS0&feature=player_embedded"]Police state fears? Cameron calls to disrupt social media during unrest - YouTube[/ame]
It kind of sums up the humiliation the indigenous Europeans are being subjected to as their last tiny area of the planet, a fraction of the land on earth, is being taken from us. Enoch was right. Wake up Britain. Wake up Europe. We are being erased from existence.
The OP doesn't make sense. Clearly he or she is in the same ideological bed of Ander Breivik. I do agree that to me it seems that most of the thugs were from African orgin or so-called "white trash". The main indicator that these people have in common is not their ethnic heritage, their assumed religion (wtf? this is Europe -- God is dead here), their skin colour, etc. but their position on the socio-economic ladder. Case in point:
What makes you imagine a significant number of the rioters were either Muslim or immigrants? Being black doesn't necessarily indicate either. Well there is no evidence that they did. There is an imbalance in the race of the rioters (though it wasn't exclusively black) but that's the case in those areas in general. I've seen absolutely zero evidence linking anything to any kind of religion. There has been lots of jumping the gun on assigning motives (or often a motive) to the riots but you're at least as guilty of that as anyone else. My suspicion has remained that there were loads of different reasons for all the different people getting involved in everything that went on and there isn't going to be one big answer. I don't believe you.
I don't believe you either. The media accurately reported on the cross section of society who were involved in the riots. If you saw only blacks/muslims you need glasses. You are attempting to misdirect people for obvious reasons.
You are absolutely correct Honest Joe. Since when did colour denote religion. These riots had zilch to do with religion so that will be why they were not reported as such. Many of the coloured people in this country are also British by birth, some going back many generations and many of these are also Christian. Why does every problem everywhere have to be blamed on the Muslim religion.
Its far too simplistic to blame the riots either on race or social mobility, which is the usual tired old rationale the right and left come out with. Instead this is a crisis of ethics and culture and both political sides are responsible for the moral rot in our society.
I GOTTA SAY I WAS INDOORS WHEN RIOT'S AN LOOTERS WAS GOING DOWN: IM 26 year old women an my view on this is that kids today they dont know wot pride is part from a reputaion for them selfs or an when england plays football to cheer them an big them up... recenly there was a royal wedding with are prince an PROUD king to be WILLIAM an our lovely kate which made this counrty proud i relized that day i remem them as boys as now as men because same age an generaion i guess... when there mum passed away she was very much loved by the public an her two son's an there dad had his thourts with sum1 else?camilla AN IS NOW WED but i do not really know the queen i see abit off her? when i got it lol on notes an coins but never on TV saying bout crime or how its rised lately or its got low and that shes proud off the young teenagers on the streets because crime this month has dropped say 30% well done keep maken us brits proud... or they see is taxes going up an david camron in a big room argueing an bad news everyday on the new's THE KIDS AN TEENS NEED SOMEONE IN BRITAIN TO LOOK UP TO AN BE PROUD OF....WEN WILLIAMS KING I HOPE HE SPEAKS MORE FOR HIS COUNTRY.......ON TV MORE. not look up an see bad news everyday. i think this country lost its respect wen diana had her crash all off sudden an waching them boys walk behind there mumxxx charles an camilla got married i dont really know them two aswel they to old lol but we shuld c them more? MY MUM DAD AN NAN GRANDAD NOW MORE? waymore I SEE and here BARRICK O'BARMA speak proud off his more..and hes not been presadent long? not very well spelled but this is why i think this happen teenagers need reason not to attack there own towns an country stop think ? we need someone to speak up more see more ...an sort the anger out its only gonna get worst....
The undisputed truth is that virtually ALL of the rioters were ethnically North Africans. And I do not think anyone would dispute that poverty and frustration at lack of job opportunity was a contributing cause of the riots. The other main cause of the riots was likely a different culture that is much less respectful towards the property and personal rights of others, and is more prone to violence. This culture may have been brought over from the muslim nations these people came from, in many cases being tranmitted through the ethnic north african social circles in the socially isolated minority neighborhoods. Because of limited job opportunities and high costs of rent, it is very challenging for even ethnically British young adults to find decent jobs and afford to move out of their parents homes. It must seem like an impossible challenge for the offspring of muslim refugee parents to make it on their own in British society. If the UK is not prepared to deal with the problems and challenges created by bringing over more immigrants, perhaps the government should reassess its immigration policies. I am not saying that the muslim religion in any way caused the rioting, just that there is a culture of violence and disrespect associated with the muslim nations. And this propensity for violence is obviously being transmitted somehow from immigrant parents to their UK-born children. But there is no easy solution to the problem. Poverty brings with it all sorts of social problems.
Anders, In this instance most of the rioters were mostly second generation Jamaicans, bringing their looting, thieving, raping culture over here. In fact this community was responsible for the last riots like this, the sickening riots of the 80s. Probably another 20% were white hangers-on who think they're black and whose brains are adversely affected by smoking too much pot!
