I'm going to be posting what are clear contradictions in the bible. For many Christians, they believe every word in their bible is inspired by God making it factually true. I'm going to prove it is not and is just folklore written by men. Apologist, come take your swings at proving me wrong. Here in Genesis, "God" must have had a seniors moment when describing how many pairs of animals were to be on the Ark. This is an ongoing problem with the bible. For whatever reason(men writing a faulty folklore book) God unnecessarily repeats himself. Many time through different writers making mistakes. So, this means the bible is not the inerrant word of God. Genesis 6:19-20 19 You are to bring into the ark two of all living creatures, male and female, to keep them alive with you. 20 Two of every kind of bird, of every kind of animal and of every kind of creature that moves along the ground will come to you to be kept alive. Genesis 7:2-3 2 Take with you seven pairs of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and one pair of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate, 3 and also seven pairs of every kind of bird, male and female, to keep their various kinds alive throughout the earth.
I'm guessing that burning bush that God revealed Genesis to Moses was a specific kind of bush. One with high potent THC.
No, this line of argument is bogus in that we have no real way to identify what was meant to be literal and what is allegory. The bible is not a science manual and it has an intent far beyond being a history. I know there are Christians who are confused about that, but that is not an excuse for atheists to make the samt mistake in the other direction. The stories of creation, of Eden, of Noah, of Lot, etc, are far more meaningful as allegory. Focusing on whether there was an actual world wide flood (rather than focusing on the implications of having an omniscient god who changed his mind!!) or a real live tree of the knowledge of good and evil is really just childish. I am not a believer in gods, but let's be real.
Adam was created on the third day and the sixth. Moses spoke to god face to face as a man would to his friend. But in the book of John, no man has ever seen god and lived. Let's not forget, this perfect god regretted making man in the OT. So much for being omniscient. God has many human qualities including jealousy, anger, loving, vengeful, on and on. I'm so glad I gave this bullsh** up 10 years ago.
No contradictions here. One set of instructions is simply more expanded with more detail. The verses do not contradict one another.
. No. Adam was created on the 6th day. . Speaking face to face is not seeing the face of God. God was in a cloud of his own making, covered. . We are created in the image of God.
Where do these people come up with these ridiculous excuses? If I'm speaking to you face to face, clearly I'm looking at you. As far when Adam was created, I'll let a Christian explain it. Here is the account of the formation of Adam on the THIRD Day. Gen 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, In the day the Lord God made Adam's Earth is speaking of the 3rd Day according to Gen 1:9-10. 5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. 6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground. Plants, herbs and trees GREW on the 3rd Day. Gen 1:12 7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. In order to make sure that there can be NO mistake about the Day Adam, the first Human was "formed" of the dust, read the next verses: 8 And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there He put the man whom He had formed. 9 And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow everytree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Conclusion: Adam was made the 3rd Day, the SAME Day his Earth was made but BEFORE the plants, herbs, and Trees, which GREW on the 3rd Day.
So if there's no real way to determine what was meant to be literal and what was meant to be allegorical why should anyone even bother to be concerned with it all? Maybe that's why Christians don't even bother to read it. If you can't believe in unicorns and satyrs how can you believe in a magic zombie that floats in the sky and will give you eternal life if you believe in him? If the stories contain lies why should you think that they contain truths, especially since you can't tell the lies from the truth? Zombie movies are very popular entertainment. But have you ever seen truly dead people return to life? Paul said that if the dead do not return to life then Yeshua didn't either and your faith is worthless. Would you be glad to see all of the corpses pop out of their graves in a cemetery to show that Yeshua did it? Would you invite them into your house for a chat while they eat you alive like they do in the movies?
Maybe thats the test. This simulation is being run by a petulant person we could best understand by comparing to a child. Its main goal is to see if it's creations will love it based on blind faith even when there is no proof or evidence of its existence. It created reality 5000 years ago complete with evidence of dinosaurs living 250 million years ago, evidence of evolution, etc. In the end it knows that very few of us are actually able to prove theories like evolution or relativity to ourselves. Most of us just have faith that the experiments and observations of scientists are true and none of us can do all the experiments and make all the observations. Nothing can be known so it's just as likely that we are in a simulation as it is that we aren't. If you think about it the simulation isn't even that great. Here on earth it seems cool but seriously? You can go 14 billion light years in any direction and we are the only living thing?
That is why the god concept fails in the Judeo-Christian and Muslim faiths fail, if a deity is supposedly intelligent and wise as much as its said then this being would know a percentage of the people reading the book in question are completely moronic enough to believe it all literally and would act on the bad bits to an extreme that's how we get women burned as witches, heretics jailed and executed, suicide bombings and all manner of horrors and others attacking modern science when it doesn't agree with what the book says. But I don't have FAITH in anything I do I believe things based on evidence I suspect my father for example loves me because he does nice things for me, says he does, I knew him for 50 years now and so accept him that he loves me for reasons to do so.
From Genesis 6:9 (i.e. just before the passage you mentioned): This is the account of Noah and his family. In other words, the bible does not explicitly state that the account is, or is expected to be, correct, just that the Bible gives an account.
One of the things we advocate is that one be humble and simply pray for guidence when reading God's word. I would say now...that it might be a simple matter of God helping with reading comprehension....
Nonsense, god himself stated both accounts. 6:13 So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them.......
You have not remotely disputed the contradiction. Both chapters give specific animals/birds and specific numbers that contradict each other.
Actually, you are saying that one has to accept that god is real first then accept everything the Bible says is fact and makes sense. Well, that isn't intellectuall honesty and diligent scrutiny when forming ones world view. It is absurd to suggest people flip their zombie switch on before reading the Bible.
There is no contradiction to dispute. Alone or side by side both chapters are correct. One simply has more details then the other.
This is a flat out lie. 6 says "all" and "every" animal/creature/birds. 7 contradicts by inserting clean for some animals. It specifically states two's and then sevens for birds.
1 Corinthians 14: 22-25 says: Tongues, then, are a sign not for the believers but for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for believers, not for unbelievers. So if the whole church comes together and everyone speaks in tongues, and some who do not understand or some unbelievers come in, will they not say that you are out of your mind? But if an unbeliever or someone who does not understand comes in while everybody is prophesying, he will be convinced by all that he is a sinner and will be judged by all, and the secrets of his heart will be laid bare. So he will fall down and worship God, exclaiming, "God is really among you!" Let's examine that. In the first sentence it states that the practice of tongues are for unbelievers while prophesy is for believers. Then it follows by making the detailed argument for the opposite. Perhaps it meant that if you hear prophesy and believe it after initially doubting, then it turns out you were a believer all along. But then why are tongues for unbelievers? Let's further examine that. If I you were to enter a room full of people speaking gibberish would that make you believe a supernatural event is taking place. Or if you were to enter a room and then everyone in there turns around and points their fingers at you and say 'You will die in a week!' is THAT going it compel you to convert? I think in both cases, I would suddenly think I'm walking into a mental institution.
Mine was 6:9, the entire passage is listed as an account, not as necessary truth. I'm not saying I believe the authors of the Bible were more interested in the details of record keeping than in the supposed acts of God, but I am very sceptical of the idea that there would be merit in the Bible if we can explain away any contradictions.
I'm not sure what you are saying. This contradiction should not exist if this book is the inerrant word of god.
The Bible says "this is an account of Noah and his story" or something along those lines. It is correct that it is an account. The account may contain errors, but the statement that it's an account of Noah is correct. Basically, the Bible doesn't say "God said take seven birds" or whatever, it says "someone told me that God said to take seven birds" or whatever. As such, it would be inerrant to say that is what someone said (i.e. it's an account).
I think that you trying to find a way to make this literature "relevant " And for some people it may have further relevance But that relevance was not the intent of the writers It is a gloss applied retrospectively I just do not think that those long ago writers were sitting down and writing withe the frame of mind like ... oh oh..I feel inspired by god, I must write down his holy words which future generations will revere and interpret allegorically to give meaning to their lives
