Biden’s #MeToo Blunder

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    So we are supposed to believe the women accusers. We have to start with that belief. That is what the Dems and the MSM and more important Biden have said and in particular to the Justice Kavanaugh allegation which they STILL believe to this day. Reade has brought forth far more corroborating evidence than Ford who basically brought none.

    So..................

    The former vice president just made it much harder for friends to support him.
    Did Joe Biden just destroy the premise of his presidential campaign? In a single moment in a Thursday night television interview, the former vice president encouraged a significant number of his supporters to abandon him. He also undercut his main argument against President Donald Trump.

    Mike Memoli reports for NBC News:

    Former Vice President Joe Biden, after again emphatically denying the claim of a former staffer that he sexually assaulted her nearly three decades ago, acknowledged for the first time Thursday the dilemma now facing some potential supporters in November, saying: “They should vote with their heart.”“If they believe Tara Reade, they probably shouldn’t vote for me. I wouldn’t vote for me if I believed Tara Reade,” Biden told Lawrence O’Donnell during an extended interview Thursday on MSNBC.​

    Mr. Biden has just sawed off the political limb supporting liberal feminists willing to back him on the grounds that, whether the allegation is true or not, the issue is trumped by the urgent need to beat the President. If Mr. Biden himself is now suggesting that voters who believe Ms. Reade should not vote for him, how can his surrogates claim they should? To support him now, Biden surrogates have to send the implicit message that they think Ms. Reade is not telling the truth.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/bidens-metoo-blunder-11589559341?mod=djemBestOfTheWeb

    The article notes that

    According to Monmouth:

    The electorate is divided on the validity of this allegation – 37% say it is probably true, 32% say it is probably not true, and 31% have no opinion.Opinion on this question breaks sharply along partisan lines. More Republicans say the allegation is probably true (50%) than not true (17%) while more Democrats say is it is probably not true (55%) than true (20%). Independents are more likely to feel that the allegation is true (43%) rather than not true (22%), while 35% have no opinion either way. Overall, men (39% true and 29% not true) are slightly more likely than women (35% true and 34% not true) to believe the charge against Biden.
    So voters do as Biden says how can he possibly win?
     
  2. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    The problem for Trump is that if people are going to believe sexual assault accusers, then the 20 plus who have accused Trump should also be believed.

    On the sexual assault issue, Trump and Biden cancel each other out.
    Personally, I hope Biden drops out and the Dems run Amy K. - which would put all Trump's sexual misconduct back on the table.
     
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    One sided way to look at this. Wondering why all the celebrities that were so vocal for Hillary are now completely silent for Biden?
     
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    He has asked that the report she said she filed be found. He isn't sweeping it under the carpet. And instead of slandering her and labeling her a liar, he has suggested that those folks believing her shouldn't vote for him. I'd say he confronted it head on and took the high road.
     
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    How is he not labeling her a liar? He literally said that what she said "isn't true"?

    How is that not labeling her a liar? lol
     
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    This isn't about Trump this is about Biden's problem................do try to focus.
     
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    How convenient he asked the agency which can't release such forms. And he refuses to have his own records opened this after his staff already went and checked. Wonder why he doesn't want them after they checked? And yes he is calling her a liar that her story is not true. And until he proves he is innocent she is to be believed. You see the numbers now the voters should do what he said, if they believe it is true they should not vote for him. He then loses the election.
     
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    If Biden has a problem that is countered by Trump having the same problem, then it is intertwined. Trump can't make a huge deal of it in debates or on the campaign trail if it just reminds people that Trump has been accused by 20 times more women of sexual misconduct. Just a fact of life.
     
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    Do you think the Democrats should champion a Sexual Predator when they have been "priding" themselves of being advocates against sexual predators?
     
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    I see what the problem is.
    Biden is telling people to vote their conscience.
    This, of course, would be extremely confusing to the Trump followers.
     
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    What did he tell his rape victim(s) when he committed the assault(s)?
     
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    Since you made up this why don't you just make up your answer.
     
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    Who made up what? You're claiming his Sexual Assault Victim is a liar?

    Doesn't sound very "MeToo" to me. Are you a Biden Supporter?
     
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    I'm calling anyone who's accusing Biden of rape a liar.

    And, yes, Reade is a liar.
     
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    So you also believe Justice Kav's accuser is a liar too?
     
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    Also, Biden hasn't only been accused of Sexual Assault. He's had numerous women say that he was very inappropriate with them. Which makes sense.

    Find it odd that all the celebrities that championed Hillary and the MeToo are not championing Biden right now?
     
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    And Biden said, upon reflection...
    Reflection? The act of seriously thinking about something. Something entirely foreign to the Trumpinistas.
    ... that he understood his manner of interacting may have bothered some people and that he apologizes to anyone who may have been bothered or upset and promised to be more aware.
    This is what a leader does.

    What a leader does not do is use campaign funds to pay hush money to his victims.
     
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    No this has to do what Biden said is to be done in these cases and that is the woman is to be believed. He can't hide behind Trump on that. This is what HE says should be done and if you believe Reade if you believe he did what she said you should not vote for him PERIOD. Well he just lost the election then. Now focus on the topic which is not Trump.
     
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    The problem for Biden and his supporters are the position he and they took. And now he is telling people not to vote for him if they believe he sexually assault a young woman a subordinate employee over whom he had employment power and it seems enough do that it will cost him the election. How's he going to deal with the problem, on the knowledge Democrats won't vote their stated principles and conscience? And stop trying to hide behind Trump. Biden said Kavanaugh should not hold a high position because of an unsupport allegation made by a woman because women should be believed. He now can't say he should be somehow excused because of Trump. Neither can you.
     
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    Oh what basis do you make that claim?
     
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    Popcorn anyone?
     
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    He told a supporter at another event to vote for Trump and personally insults supporters at events. I'd hate to be a democrat. Evidently 20016 taught them nothing about choosing electable candidates. Trump 2020!:deadhorse::flagus::icon_picknose:
     
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    When you're talking about philandering *********s, the topic is always Trump. This is a guy who hired porn stars while his
    wife was at home taking care of his new-born son.
     
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    So you have heard.
     
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    Fortunately for Biden's handlers, most Dem Party voters are going to vote for whomever the DNC --operating through their media outlets -- TELL them to vote for.
     
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