Biden calls 9mm ‘high-caliber weapons,’ suggests banning them

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  1. Pollycy

    Pollycy Well-Known Member

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    Whatever else may be said, the 9mm cartridge is by NO serious, knowledgeable assessment a "high caliber" round. Biden's ignorance is VAST and breathtaking....
     
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    The Continental army existed at the time of the drafting of our rights some are seeking to revoke.

    You must not believe in owning arms for lawful self defense
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Murder is one line item, why are you ignoring rape, assault, theft?

    We could address the male issue and all of those go away my 98%+

    Would you rather live in a nation with half the murder and 2/3’s the rape or one with virtually zero?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Seems that way according to Alito.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Me posting the facts behind what is happening and asking what part you disagree with is “personal stuff”?

    What are you talking about?
     
  6. Polydectes

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    If you want to be taken seriously and you want to have an adult discussion with me leave the personal crap out of it.

    From now on if I respond to you it will only be if you don't try to make things personal.

    That's called maturity I suggest you try it.
     
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    I would love for us to stop having so much murder and rape and other crimes. I'm not sure how those gymnastics from "men" to "the people who are committing 54% of all murders but I know exactly why people would obfuscate that, they don't want to address scary black crime.

    There is no reality in which there is no crime, not with the culture that needs a major overhaul going WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY past their numbers.
     
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    Something else people seem to overlook is crime committed by black people is often committed against the black people.

    Not addressing it suggests black lives don't matter this is why the hoax who shares that name is just that.

    It goes against all sorts of leftist narratives. One of the reasons why we see such a disparity on the basis of race is because of the disparity and functioning households. There are far more per capita black boys who never met their father. And thus do not have a positive male role model in their life.

    The nuclear family because it is the fundamental basis of human morality is the enemy of the Marxist left. Because it instills concepts that go against collectivism.
     
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    I do enjoy when someone complains someone isn’t having an adult conversation and to leave personal “crap” out of it and then follows up with a personal insult. Please, take your own advice.

    Fascinatingly ironic especially seeing that all of the personal remarks have been from you.

    If you would care to identify which of the fact based items — on the topic you brought up while slinging personal insults — that you disagree with we can progress or you can continue with this display. Its up to you.
     
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    I have already addressed black crime, something needs to be done about it in the area that it is pervasive.

    It does not, however, impact the entire nation. Only those communities.
    It does not impact me, my family, or my community.

    Violence committed by men does, rapes committed by men does, theft committed by men does, school shooting committed by men does

    Why do you want to discuss only one single line item of the chart you keep posting?
    Blacks commit 54% of murders.
    Men commit 89% of all murders.

    Blacks commit 28% of rape.
    Men commit 99% of all rape.

    Why can you so easily call out blacks but seem to stop short of calling out men?
     
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    I bet you're pretty giddy most of the time then ;)
     
  12. Polydectes

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    There was nothing of value in that post.
     
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    From now on if I respond to you it will only be if you don't try to make things personal.

    That's called maturity I suggest you try it.
     
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    Yes, I do. Just within reason. There are many ways that law abiding citizens could own guns, shoot guns, hunt, etc, just with a lot more regulation.
    Example: if you want a gun for self defense, then you could buy one with a mandatory check and register that weapon. A shotgun is the best home self defense weapon. The registering system could track any transactions (any would have to be reported, maybe even have to get it signed at the local sherriffs office) involving that weapon, including ammo purchases, and after awhile, certain characteristics will show up. It would then be easier to determine the pattern of someone with ill intent.
    Read this, look at the map about halfway down, and if that doesn't explain it, I'm not sure what else to say.
    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/02/03/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/
    By the way, the above mentioned idea is mostly in place with our cars already. Why not make gun ownership as stringent as owning a car?
     
  15. Polydectes

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    It's a deal.

    Did you have a subject you wanted to discuss.
     
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    No, that would apply to anything that can be a man can bear by hand. Nowhere did they ever discuss the second applied to muskets.
     
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    According to Tench Coxe the second gave the American citizens the right to the same sword and shield as the military and that neither the state nor the federal government had the power to take it away.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that stats show they are committing crimes against more than just themselves. Since men commit more crimes than anyone and solve more crimes than anyone why not start with the problem that has a cultural fix? I mean, unless you wanna start chopping things off...
     
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    The new zero tolerance policy kicks in for the following:

    ATF will issue a notice of revocation whenever it determines an FFL has willfully committed a single act of one of the following violations:
    1. Transferring a firearm to a prohibited person
    2. Failing to conduct a required background check
    3. Falsifying records, such as a firearms transaction form
    4. Failing to respond to a trace request
    5. Refusing to permit ATF to conduct an inspection
    Other willful violations that may result in the issuance of a notice of revocation include but are not limited to failure to:
    1. Account for firearms
    2. Verify and document buyer eligibility
    3. Maintain records needed for successful firearms tracing
    4. Report multiple sales of handguns
    Those all seem like pretty major mess-ups. Is your issue that you feel they should be given multiple violations before revocation occurs? There is also an appeal process for minor errors.

    Should FFA dealers be allowed to willingly falsify records or refuse an ATF inspection? Which ones do you take issue with?
     
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    So a weapon that launches a nuclear device would be allowed? What about a minigun?

    You really think that is what the founders intended?
     
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    The variance is about 40%

    Many would argue the issues men have is also cultural as we do not see these rates in many other countries, especially Nordic ones.
     
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    Why do revocations all the sudden increase by 500% in 2021?

    Was there a sudden and massive change in gun dealers?
     
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    Nuclear arms can not be grasped by the hand. The history of the right to bear has always had that limitation ever since the Roman Empire. Nuclear weapons would not be historically eligible under that term
     
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    Dems have zero to offer in terms of actually fixing these issues.
     
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    Ew ew, I want to play too.


    What do you suggest as a viable means to prevent tyranny?
     

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