Biden dismisses Uighur genocide as part of China’s ‘different norms’

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  1. Hollyhood

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    This is the entire statement. Yes. Biden was referring to China's ethnic cleansing of the Uighur Muslims, and the PPC's invasion and 'planned annexation' of Taiwan and Hong Kong. All this nonsense about Biden putting restrictions on China right now are completely impotent in light of Biden's words, and it seems the administrations only intentions are to mask what might be one of the worst statements ever said by a sitting President since "Saddam is building WMDs". He's not going to speak out against genocide? What? But rest assured. He's going to have a good private talk with Xi Jinping regarding the reasons concentration camps are bad.
     
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    So your logic and evidence for defending Biden's statement defending the Chinese government's genocide of the Uighur Muslims as well as their intentions to invade Taiwan is basically hearsay in which you think Trump said "nobodies perfect" in response to a question about NK's atrocious treatment of their citizens? So you have no evidence. I posted Biden's own words as exhibit A. I guess you own projector.

    BTW here's what context looks like... Trump's statements were a distasteful, but off-the-cuff, response during a sensitive diplomatic talk in which the media was trying to undermine his efforts to influence NK because they didn't like him. The other statement was a passive defense of genocide and a potential invasion of a US ally on an issue that CNN and the media has given Biden ample time in which to respond. Biden's statement was an intentional response to question he probably got beforehand from CNN, and Trump's statement was a poor attempt by a guy who just started his political career during a tough diplomatic situation. That's context.
     
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    "THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS A WHOLLY OWNED SUBSIDIARY: Biden State Department Nominee Is a Defender of China Propaganda Program."

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/435551/

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    Dismisses Confucius Institute's national security threat

    You can tell who is on the payroll, or at least on the team.
     
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    And yet Trump did more against China than Biden has. Biden won't even condemn genocide.
     
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    Lol... color me surprised.
    These threads are just desperate attempts to create the illusion of a moral equivalency between Biden and trump in hopes of distracting from the disgusting legacy of the seditious orange dotard and his insurrectionist cult.
    We don’t forget that easily how they tried to stage a coup and murdered people to prop up their cult leader.
     
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    Oops........
    Biden campaign says China's treatment of Uighur Muslims is "genocide"
    https://www.axios.com/biden-campaign-china-uighur-genocide-3ad857a7-abfe-4b16-813d-7f074a8a04ba.html

    Looks like Beijing Donnie helped himself with his beloved Communist China:

    China grants 18 trademarks in 2 months to Trump, daughter
    https://apnews.com/article/0a3283036d2f4e699da4aa3c6dd01727

    Heck, as Beijing Donnie believes: Why manufacture products in the USA when you can produce them in Communist China and Communist Vietnam?
     
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    Said while campaigning. Now that he is in a position to do something he just dismisses it as "cultural norms".

    oops yourself: LINK: Trump signs sanctions law over China treatment of Uighurs (yahoo.com)
     
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    Biden dismisses murder.

    Shocking.
     
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    HOW LONG WILL THE WORLD TOLERATE THIS? The Hills Are Alive With The Screams Of Uighurs.

    Council on Foreign Relations:
    We are doing business with folks that will actually steal and sell your kidneys.
    "The hills are alive with the screams of Uighurs, but the corporate office shills can’t hear them over the clinks of coin."
     
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    I agree speaking out like a sermon with glib Presidential epithets is a waste of time. China will do what it wants.

    I don't completely agree, though. He should tactfully draw a line at Taiwan and visibly not condone Uighur genocide.

    Most important of all though, Biden clearly understands a bit about Chinese history. And, yes, context. Refreshing...
     
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    And achieved what, though? Is China "checked"?

    It was simply posturing..
     
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    For the last 40 years at least the policy of the US has been to be nice towards China. Yet they still have child sweatshops. They still forcibly harvest organs from lower class people to give to those that need a transplant and they deem valuable. They steal our technology. And many other things. When do you think we should start holding them to a higher standard? When do you think we should stop being nice to them? The US and other western countries claim to be for democracy. Fight wars over it even. Supplant governments even. All supposedly for that end. When are they going to start doing something about China's atrocities?

    Trump may not have done much. But at least he wasn't riding their coattails either. He certainly didn't just brush it off as "cultural norms".

    What would you do?
     
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    Nice try. Check the dates and the typical ....BUT TRUMP!!! You understand he said straight up that’s it’s OK that China murders people, “because culture”. Imagine if we said that back in the 40s when Germany was executing people, because hey it’s just their cultural norm. If only the MSM actually called him out.
     
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    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...-chinese-officials-over-human-rights-n1261745
     
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    Honestly - help them become a wealthier, more prosperous country...expanded, wealthier middle class will raise the consciousness of the country (and has already done so).

    We are all complicit in manufacturing in and buying cheap stuff from China. They also gobble up our (australian) natural resources. None of this will end soon.

    I think the only thing that we need to check is military expansion and intellectual property theft. We have little direct influence over human rights abuses.

    What do you think we should do and what effect do you think this will have?
     
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    Please actually try reading/watching/listening to what he actually said instead of the dishonestly edited version your favorite "news" sources are feeding you. Is that really too much to ask for?

    You guys really need to figure out a way to overcome your addiction to fake news.
     
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    Why do you guys feel the need to make up **** like this? Biden never dismissed genocide as some kind of cultural norm. Why should the "MSM" call him out on a lie about him?
     
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    You understand that we are writing about Beijing Donnie, the one who actually pays his federal taxes in his beloved Communist China as he tries to avoid paying his federal taxes here. If Beijing Donnie is so concerned about the actions of the totalitarian Chinese government, why are he and his family still manufacturing products there instead of the good ole USA USA USA?
     
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    Yeah, Bolton reports that Trump had actually spoken favorably about China's treatment of the Uyghurs, which wouldn't exactly be surprising. Trump never even spoke out against the genocide until Congress passed a bill regarding it with a veto-proof majority, during Trump's lame duck session. No honest person can credit Trump with anything here. By any measure, Biden has been more outspoken about this than Trump ever was.
     
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    Feel free to add any context you believe I missed.......:popcorn:

    BTW did he call for MLB to stop associating with them?
     
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    As I said: try actually reading/watching/listening to what he said. Your handlers, the ones telling you that he dismissed genocide as a "different norm" are lying to you. Start thinking and reading/watching/listening for yourself. You shouldn't need fake news to command you what to believe.

    BTW, can you at least try to be intellectually honest about this instead of just scrambling to change the subject the moment someone calls out your fake news as fake? No? Didn't think so, but it was worth a shot.
     
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    Entire TH is here. Again, were is it missed that he did not give China an out for the abuse of the Uighurs? Post what you mean versus giving these ad hoc rebuttals with no substance!
    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2021/02/17/part-1-entire-joe-biden-town-hall-february-16-vpx.cnn
     
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    Try reading the transcript or actually watching the video. Why do you refuse? He never dismissed genocide as a "different norm." Any literate person can see that. Why make this **** up?

    What did he ACTUALLY say about Chinese human rights abuses? Try exercising some SAT skills here.
     
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    Are you suggesting that we should move back to the pre-Nixon policy direction of whacking China for internal policy we recognize as antihumanitarian?

    Do you see the Trump direction of unilateral punishment combined with a "go it alone" general strategy as likely to succeed in some way?
     
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