Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by chris155au, Feb 18, 2021.
I said what I said and that wasn't it.
Forget about speeches then. Are you saying that tweets cannot be taken out of context, as long as the tweets are published?
If you publish a tweet, then you get it straight from the horses mouth. Why do you need media to tell you what to think about it?
I give you the benefit of the doubt for two reasons: both the confusing way Biden was trying to express his perspective (including contradictory, if read literally, misspeaking),
& the poor way the NY POST related it.
But it is clear from the overall article that Biden doesn't accept all those norms, only that he recognizes that they are part of playing politics; so the worst reading of Biden's remarks would be to take him to mean that when, as the U.S. President, Biden criticizes Xi, he is just playing politics, as well.
From the article:
The commander-in-chief made the remarks after being asked during his CNN town hall Tuesday evening... starting his response by RELAYING XI'S JUSTIFICATION for the abuses.
“If you know anything about Chinese history, it has always been, the time when China has been victimized by the outer world is when they haven’t been unified at home,” Biden began. “So the central — well, vastly overstated — the central principle of Xi Jinping is that there must be a united, tightly controlled China. And he uses his rationale for the things he does based on that..."
"I point out to him no American president can be sustained as a president, if he doesn’t reflect the values of the United States,” the US president continued. “And so the idea that I am not going to speak out against what he’s doing in Hong Kong, what he’s doing with the Uighurs in western mountains of China and Taiwan — trying to end the one China policy by making it forceful … [Xi] gets it.”
“Culturally there are different norms that each country and their leaders are expected to follow,” he continued.
nope but its far from exaggerated info.
i never say what ccp doing is right, but it has nothing to do with racism or against ethnic, its just about china holding its power and will crush down any that challenge their power. furthermore, there are plenty government have worst human right than china, saudi for example, no one sanction saudi over yemen, which already cost 230k+ lives. And dont forget saudi treatment over woman right, which is one of the worst, yet we are ally with them. also my parents and their friend (all american) went to xinjian at least twice in the last 5 years, there are plenty uyghur live their life normally, so genocide is far reach. so my point is dont belief everything in media as 100% truth, its often a bit exaggerated for the rating, go see for yourself.
So if Biden publishes a tweet which says, the Uighur genocide is a different norm, and right wing media publishes tweets to say that Biden doesn't care about the Uighur genocide, but directly quotes the tweet in their tweets, you would say that the right wing media didn't take his tweet out of context?
Biden didn't tweet that statement though. Biden provided the context of his statement.
But he didn't publish such tweet. You media source took few words out of his speech and associated a fake context to it, and you fell for it.
Not sure why you are having such hard time with this, but I won't spend more time trying to explain the obvious.
Yes, but if he did, your contention is that it would be impossible to take it out of context! I argue that it WOULD be possible to take it out of context,
by not providing the context of everything else he has said on the subject!
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts every day would be Christmas.
about the 2 million in camps was exaggeration.
Once again both D's and R's are wrong. The problem isn't that Biden seemed to say the genocide is a norm. The problem is that he failed to describe the real danger, which has nothing to do with Chinese norms, or culture, and that is the fact that the CCP is accountable to no one. Not cancel culture, the media, or an opposition party. No one. And that makes a government, especially one with advanced weapons (like a bioweapon) dangerous to us.
The fact that they are committing genocide is simply further evidence of the danger they represent.
Xi is more nationalist ethnic Chinese [Han] than previous Chinese leaders... and that's good for China.
Who made that exaggeration?
Okay, so forget about Biden's theoretical tweet, what about Trump's REAL tweets? Are you saying that none of his tweets were ever taken out of context?
Yes, and the media provided the context of his statement which is something that they never did for Trump.
You still don't get it? They are HIS Tweets, and if he fails to provide context, then its on him. Readers would have to either ignore the Tweet, or guess the context, and sure enough, his apologists spent lot of effort trying to explain the context to the rest of the world and often the context had to be invented in order to explain/justify the nonsense in his Tweets.
Which is what the media did with Trump!
I hold people responsible for their own tweets, but I know that is not how Trump and his apologists operate. Everything they do it always someone else's fault, and everything boils down to the poor persecuted white man.
The government not only rapes these folks, they also use them for Slave Labor and American Corporations use them to make products they sell on US Markets. Last year, Republicans pushed a bill to outlaw all slave produced products on American Markets and were shut down by democrats. Those big donors like Apple, NBA and Nike have real clout.
"JOE BIDEN SAYS THEY JUST HAVE DIFFERENT CULTURAL NORMS: China Tries To Discredit Female Uighur Witnesses By Releasing Private Sexual Health Data."
Rape victims are coming forward and describing to journalists the systematic gang rape that is occurring in these Concentration Camps at the hands of the Chinese Communist Guards. Lying Outlaw Slaver China is pushing back by claiming that the women telling their stories are untrustworthy sluts.
"China Tries To Discredit Female Uighur Witnesses By Releasing Private Sexual Health Data/The officials said the information..."
"... was evidence of bad character, in an effort to invalidate the women’s accounts of abuse in Xinjiang," HuffPo reports.
Until these companies that universally fund the Left and Left Wing politicians are prohibited from selling slave produced goods on US markets, TODAY, not 200 years ago, I don't want to hear another damned word from them about my supposed "inherent bias."
The FACT is, the media took Trump's tweets out of context!
Enough of this!
If you dont think people are not responsible for providing context to their tweets, then so be it.
"THOSE DIFFERENT CULTURAL NORMS: China’s ‘Sharp Eyes’ Program Aims to Surveil 100% of Public Space."
"Ownership? All they “own” is the privilege of being surveilled right back by their neighbors."
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