Biden planning first major tax hike in almost 30 years

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Why, has that sort of thing ever changed the minds of the ardent left? I like to keep it pithy, effort is wasted on political forums ;)
     
  2. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So again, you are expecting people that do not have a problem with something fix something that you and your party feel is an issue but are too incompetent (the party, not you) to actually fix it.

    Got it. Makes sense
     
  3. nopartisanbull

    nopartisanbull Well-Known Member

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    Just found another one;

    Corporate Tax rate

    1988; 34%
    1993; 35%.......kept on the books til 2018, thus, more revenues for both Clinton and Gingrish
    2018; 21%

    https://www.thebalance.com/corporate-income-tax-definition-history-effective-rate-3306024
     
  4. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, the article is fairly unbiased.

    It is a much needed realignment of some of our tax policy. I am saddened that cap gains were not heavily increased though.
     
  5. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Absolutely. When we have billionaire presidents paying less income taxes than a fast food worker that is unemployed for most of the year there is a major issue.
     
  6. lemmiwinx

    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, but sadly the big ones sometimes get away. And by big ones I mean politicians like Cuomo and his ilk.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cute way of saying you don’t have one.
    I wasn’t expecting much more but I was expecting a more vibrant excuse. Sad
     
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    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Oh no, that was you :) That dog aint gonna hunt bro..
     
  9. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Aww. You’ve moved on to pet names in addition to smilies

    Must be close to the end of work...
     
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    Ya I know, you'd like me to fall in line with leftist thinking we have like census takers spaced one mile apart from the pacific coast California to Matamoros Texas Gulf coast counting ILLEGAL migrants sneaking across the southern border..

    Please cd8ed don't to take me for someone that naive ;)
     
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    Trump as President had illegals working in his private suite until word got out. Republican employers like cheap labor.
     
  12. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    Hey you're the one throwing up census maps that tally people sneaking across the border as accurate numbers ;)
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So, as always, your opinion is made based on feelings vs quoted or fact based research. Gotcha. Does that level of... “debate”... ever really work for you?

    Idc. Cheers
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump tried to fight back and look what they did to him. He's a living poster boy for don't piss off the CIA. Brennan pulled every lever the CIA had at his disposal to take Trump down. Charming looking fellow don't you agree?

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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It’s the information I found (which is why I asked if you could supplement it). Probably not completely accurate but more accurate than your emotions I would guarantee
     
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    Opinion, hardly! But hell I give you chance.. How are your sources counting people sneaking across the borders from Cali to Texas.. I'm super interested!!
     
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    LOL, so you just toss up whatever inaccurate info KNOWING damn well it's inaccurate and call me emotional for pointing that out ;)
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I hear you. If you make that much then you have no idea what it's like to work for a living. Unless you're a high ranking party official then you get automatically added as a soldier in the working man's army.
     
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    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How many of them are not being stopped is the issue. How many of them been admitted and released? Held in cages? Bussed to an undisclosed location? To a disclosed location under protests of town majors?
     
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    lemmiwinx Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I sleep better knowing Biden has custody of the nuclear football. Trump kind of scared me to tell the truth. Biden would never drop it accidentally and set off a nuclear Armageddon I'm sure. His handlers are with him every minute of every day for that reason.
     
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    Now, let's talk about Gingrish & Co. REVENUE generating tax cuts; BTW, in the Act, it is labelled as a revenue generating tax cut

    The top marginal long term capital gains rate fell from 28% to 20%, subject to certain phase-in rules. The 15% bracket was lowered to 10%.

    September 14, 2010
    Federal Capital Gains Tax Collections, 1954-2009

    Realized Capital Gains/Tax Paid on Capital Gains

    1995; $180.1 billion/$44.2 billion

    + $80.5 billlion/+ $22.1 billion =

    1996; $260.6 billion/$66.3 billiion

    + $104 billion/+ $13.0 billion =

    1997; $364.8 billion/$79.3 billion...........1997 Capital Gains rate cut

    + $90.4 billion/+ $9.7 billion =

    1998; $455.2 billion/$89.0 billion

    + $97.4 billion/+ $22.8 billion =

    1999; $552.6 billion/$111.8 billion

    +$91.6 billion/+ $15.4 billion =

    2000; $644,2 billlion/$127.2 billilon
    2001; $349.4 billion/$65.6 billion

    Folks, a whole lot of realized gains, HOWEVER, where's the whole lot of revenues???????????................Tax Foundation figures!

    https://taxfoundation.org/federal-capital-gains-tax-collections-1954-2009/
     
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    Since when is that the role of the federal government and where does the Constitution state it as authorizing such policies? Let alone the fact that there is no economic benefit and in fact such taxes never produce the income promised while taking more capital out of the economy and mere shifting the spending from one person to another even if you could enforce and determine the wealth of all those people who would be effected.
     
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    While China is on the verge of surpassing us military leaders already saying we stand to lose a conventional conflict with them and were that to occur then no telling what Iran and Russia would do in the Middle East. Yea that's a plan let them all take over the rest of the world.
     
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    Take out Covid and realize that Presidents do not control budgets and get back to me. In the meantime I posted about REVENUE and tax rates and posted the numbers. Refute them or admit the tax rate cuts produced the largest increases in revenue growth while Clintons tax rate increase slowed a very strong revenue growth. Given the history why would you want to raise tax rates especially NOW?
     
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    ONCE AGAIN, the above-mentioned Capital Gains tax cuts haven't generated a whole lot of revenues, HOWEVER, if investors have bought millions of dollars worth of Goods and Services with their realized gains, then good for the economy.

    I have a gut feeling Bluesguy will soon respond to my posts.......said capital gains tax cuts are his favourite.
     
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