Discussion in 'Current Events' started by MolonLabe2009, Dec 5, 2019.
No. That was Bush's intel. And most of that intel was the lying VP Cheney..
Obama and Trump fired ALL the intel agencies employees that were there under Bush?
You too send people to gas chambers and did so lot longer than we did. You also starved millions to death. You also give a **** about ethic cleansing, infact you gave Erdogan green light to kill the kurds. So spare me the crocodile tears. It was all about politics. Domination in Europe. After the war US even changed plans and dropped UK and came to peace with the fact that Germany naturally will leading Europe. Evrything else was charade.
That said, you did not destroy our army. Your involvement in WW II was small, as was in WW I. We fought UK, France, Russia, USA all at same time. In the long run quantity overwhelmed quality.
Beside that, you saved nothing from "russian enslavement". Im from eastern Germany. I was born after reunion.
We dont need USA. Our nation exists since over 2000 years. My school building is older than your country. Relations develop and we see USA as not trustworthy any longer. I believe we have the right to look forward to new relations and be prepared if this gets more hostile.
No christmas market in eastern germany looks like police state.
When will i celebrate ramadan? We have no muslims here.
But i would not be so fond for polands future. If that happens what you say would be true, Polands future is bleak. Last time Germans accepted a middle eastern death cult (christianity), we pillaged and destroyed poland and christianized it.
Not nearly enough. I think only about five NATO members is meeting their obligation
Two by partisan investigations said the intelligence was wrong. The different agencies differed on what Iraq had and what they were trying to obtain. But all agreed that Iraq had WMD. What they didn't have they were trying to obtain. Chaney while visiting all the different intelligent agencies almost every day to get the latest intelligence, put no pressure on them to expand on what Iraq had.
Dont you think its up to the german electorate and parliament to decide how much we spend on our military?
Beside that you do realize that "pay for nato" just means we spend more on our military? Your orange goon makes it sound like we send money.
NATO members agreed to put into NATO a certain percent. If I remember right, there was only around five doing it. Germany, the richest NATO nation was one of the worst offenders. Their military is so weak, a few years ago at a NATO exercise, their troops had broom sticks instead of machine guns. Yes, I know we spend more on our military to shore up what they put in. Trump is trying hard to cut our expenses. He has cut money to the UN, cut money to nations we help but vote against us in the UN. We no longer give weapons away. Trump wants them paid for. He isn't an orange goon. He has done more to fix all the problems we have in America. Your bias news just isn't telling you any of it.
Our parliament spends the money on our military that the people want. The german people want spend 1.2%. Not 2%.
Just as USA left the paris climate deal and the iran deal, we left the 2% deal.
Right, and you think Americans want to spend what we're spending? Doesn't Germany subsidize German employees to make up for shorter work week?
For decades the Kurds and Turkey have been fighting on their border. Between their fighting and ISIS fighting the Kurds, around three millions Syrians fled to Turkey. Turkey says it is putting a strain on their economy and wants to return them to Syria. They want to establish a 20 mile safe zone to move the Kurds to that will allow the return of the Syrians and also keep the Kurds off their border to stop the fighting. The Kurds refuse to move and Turkey to America that after so many days they would drive the Kurds to the 20 mile safe zone and told us to move our troops out so they wouldn't be hurt. Turkey is a NATO partner and we sure aren't going to war with them over what they want to do so Trump agreed to pull out but warned Turkey if they tried to wipe the Kurds out, he would bankrupt the country. Well the fighting went on for about 3-4 days and our VP got a cease fire to give the Kurds a time to move out. If this works, it will be good for everyone and bring to an end to decades of war between them
Tell me how did Hitler get millions of Germans to believe it was the right thing to do to try and take over the whole world and murder millions of people? I can't see the American people ever doing that. Notice after WWII, we set free all the nations we captured. We even spent billions rebuilding Europe and Japan and Reagan was instrumental of bringing down the Soviet Union and freeing all the nations they captured. So tell me just how bad Americans are. Your free today because of Reagan.
I'm beginning to think you're not really german.
Germany, France, Canada, etc...will do as they are told. They know they have been skating by for several years now but the gravy train is over.
We have no Muslims in eastern Germany. Thats a simple fact. You do realize that eastern Germany is fundamentally different.
He never wanted whole world. You killed 16 Million natives, committed genocide on Philippines.
I dont care what americans want. You dont care what we want either in your decission making.
We ****. Yes, American Indians were killed in America. Nowhere near 16 million. We lost 23,000 soldiers killed or captured in the Philippines freeing them from Japan and after the war, gave them their freedom like we did all the other nations we liberated in WWII.
Not the whole world. Just all of Europe then decided to go after Asia when you got afraid Russia might want to take some too from you.
We saw what Germany wanted in two World Wars. Life didn't mean to much to you did it, at least non German life. You can feel so proud being German. Don't trash us till you make sure your own hands are clean and they are far from it.
ROFL. This post belongs in the conspiracy theory section of the forum. Why don't you post pictures of the gas chambers and the concentration camps were we were gassing citizens, Jews and POW's, Gypsy's, etc in the millions.
Revisionist, apologist history. You trash our country and our society after the atrocities and millions of death on your hands? Please go peddle this nonsense somewhere else.
Germany has only been allowed to exist now under certain provisions and those provisions were dictated by the countries that defeated Germany and took away their ability to ethnically cleanse society and seize other countries. People with views like yours tear the world apart, not bring it together.
There weren't any WNDs.. Iraq was crippled by two decades of war and sanctions. Cheney lied.. The British had set up Operation Mass Appeal in 1998 to sell the war on Iraq. This was a PNAC thing based on Netanyahu's Clean Break Strategy from about 1996 to overthrow Saddam and isolate Syria.
Remember the claim that Saddam was trucking his WMDs back and forth between Syria and Sudan? LOLOLL
When you conquered Philippines, you killed over one Million of them. 40 years before WW II. Your General there ordered to kill evryone older than 12.
We live in 2019. Take your WW and push it where No sun shines. Now that we cleared that, we have legitimate interests. We dont want pay 2% of gdp into our defence. Its that easy. German defense spending is decided in Berlin. Thats our souvereign decission, No foreign power has the right to talk into that. Im sure you can agree to that.
Gas Chambers is a way you use for execution
Last execution with Gas chamber in USA was in 2010.
You are comparing Nazi death camps and concentration camps where millions of citizens were liquidated via the "Final Solution" to murderers being given the death penalty after they were found guilty in a court of law?
No, it is not, we have every right to demand payment.You signed an agreement to pay that amount and you refusing to do so is a violation of the very treaty you willingly engaged in. If Germany wants out of NATO, then she should remove herself from such an agreement.
But we all know Germany wants protection and wants NATO and wants to be a participant, she just doesn't want to pay her fair share.
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