Biden struggles badly during "virtual roundtable" as gaffes continue to pile up

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  1. yabberefugee

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    But when his kids saw the hair on my legs, bleached in the sun, they liked to rub them and watch it stand up! Com'on man!
     
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    If only Biden were doing this good...

     
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    Thats when he learned about roaches and how he found out he liked kids jumping on his lap.

    I MEAN SERIOUSLY if a republican called a bunch of african american kids roaches it would be a media firestorm and they'd get crucified. Biden however, well no one even cares because hes senile anyway.
     
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    Oh Lord I beg of you. Please keep Biden upright and alive long enough for him to get the nomination, please.
     
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    Just like it was Hillary- per your claims in 2016?

    Seeing a pattern?
     
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    well there is the theory that conceivably Biden could issue an executive order to send every American a 1 million$ check in the mail... so ...maybe :)
     
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    A lot of this falls on the governors who instituted the draconian policies to begin with(after receiving 'permission' via the national emergency order they begged Trump to use. Almost as if, without that order, their own 'orders' wouldn't have legal standing.). Gee, funny that?

    The larger play here is that the DNC isn't hiding it anymore. They've gone full blown bolshevist and intend to install Biden(or insert Democratic puppet here) in the same manner as they are house arresting citizens. Some might say "conspiracy theory", etc but it's no longer a theory based on past actions.

    We heard it from Obama himself: The party's poor, they sold out their principles and no longer believe they can rule by majority consent. So, welcome back to the era of Stalin.
     
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    Well Biden could credit the bank accounts of every American laid-off by covid-19, to the amount of the pre covid-19 wage.

    Obviously, without causing inflation, because the money would merely be replacing the incomes destroyed by the pandemic shutdown. No government borrowing required, as explained by Warren Mosler in his book "7 Deadly Innocent Frauds of Economic Policy".

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/mmt-overcoming-the-political-divide.569365/

    "You now have the operational answer to the question: “How are we going to pay for it?
    ” And the answer is: the same way government pays for anything, it changes the numbers in our bank accounts. The federal government isn’t going to “run out of money,” as our President* has mistakenly repeated. There is no such thing".


    *(not Trump; the book was written over a decade ago)

    It's a pity Bernie didn't fully understand this stuff (despite having Stephanie Kelton as one of his economic advisers); the displacement of neoliberal orthodoxy in favour of recognition of the currency-issuing capacity of the sovereign currency-issuing government is urgently required.
     
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    :razz:´~ If true this means I may finally be able to do that brick patio and driveway at the house ! :house::heart:
     
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    Don’t be too conspicuous cause there might be some left socialist drive by and think you don’t deserve that kind of luxury heh
     
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    The $1million check is obviously not true; but did you lose your income because of covid 19 shutdown of the economy? If so, the sovereign currency-issuing government CAN replace your lost income, without borrowing the money, and without causing inflation. See post #108 above
     
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    ~ We could abolish the federal reserve ...
     
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    Not abolish, but make it subject to congress.
    (eg, in 1946, some politicians wanted to write maintenance of full employment into the Fed's charter, but that was defeated by conservatives backing neoliberal orthodoxy. But the rules can be changed).
     
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    Your only evidence is . . . your opinion. Just leave it alone.
     
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    Biden is doing well, ahead in the battle ground states, and just waiting for Trump's big mistake.
     
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    Exactly...

    Trump will be lucky to hold him under 300 EV...:salute:
     
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    Yet COMMUNIST CHINA (why did you capitalize all that?) was actually quite effective at addressing this pandemic. It originated in a market in China, which means they had no window to prepare, yet they contained it far more effectively than we have, even though we had months to prepare. If you want a timeline of the incompetence, here you go... but I would be shocked if you read this. Trump supporters refuse to see or take seriously anything that could undermine their irrational love of Trump.

    https://www.justsecurity.org/69650/...FdAN0nuKWOAXax9VW8IFZiSyxBPbOvbYAvLYGY771vN_M
     
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    Everyone will blame the president!! Do you truly misunderstand our politics that badly? Everything good and bad that happens, even when the president doesn't deserve the credit or blame, gets laid at the feet of the president. The president has relatively little influence over the economy in normal times, yet Trump acted as if he was solely responsible for a moderately strong economy before Corona virus. You think he will be able to effectively sell the line "Give me all the credit for a kind of strong economy until February, but give me no blame for what has happened since!!" That isn't exactly a strong message to run on and if you think that is going to be effective, you have your head in the sand.
     
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    You know this isn't going to work, right? Either Trump will start to handle this crisis more effectively, or no amount of stoking fear of the other will work to win this election for him!!
     
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    You think China is more trustworthy in their reporting and more competent in their response than the USA? Wow. I suggest you move.
     
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    Who are the current communists you speak of? Even literal communist parties in the world today don't really believe in communism. I mean China is a Leninist dictatorship of the party, where 40% of the economy is run by the government, but the other 60% functions in a less regulated state than most more purely capitalist countries. Are you talking about congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez? Because she is basically a European social democrat, who wants us to be more like Scandanavia, Germany, etc. You may disagree, but pretending that is the same as Maoist China or Stalinist USSR is a blatant lie.
     
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    I lived in China for 3 years. I am quite certain that their government is capable of being more effective than any government run by Donald Trump. The government services in Shanghai, where I lived, were generally world class. The problems in China stem largely from the fact that their authoritarian system leads to major failures. However, the major problems with functional authoritarian systems, generally aren't related to their governments not being competent. In China, there are closed circuit informational loops, where low level officials are incentived to deny or fabricate reality, in order to protect their job security. Their authoritarian educational system fails radically to prepare their students to think critically, instead promoting the ability to retain and regurgitate information at will. This can lead to some positive outcomes in STEM fields, but students otherwise struggle mightily to adapt or think creatively or critically when that is necessary (I have first hand experience with this, as I worked as a professor at a university in Shanghai). Their authoritarianism also leads to a closed media atmosphere, where all media is approved of and laudatory towards the state. This leads to failures, as journalists don't do the vital work of holding power to account. Long story cut extraordinarily short, there are many shortcomings to the Chinese system, but what a functional authoritarian system absolutely CAN do, is respond quickly and effectively in a crisis.
     
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    ~ Right about now I am thinking even Hillary Clinton can beat this guy ... :ashamed:

    joe-biden-on-isis-we-will-follow-them-to-the-gate-2-15211-1409771336-22_dblbig.jpg

    " Oh come on man...! If you can believe this malarkey then you ain't black!! "
     
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    ~ And that is exactly why so many deaths in China and the government constantly puts out false information and will suppress those citizens who speak the truth .
    The 'Chinese system" should be the world standard . Wuhan is a shinning example :blowkiss:

    joe-biden-on-isis-we-will-follow-them-to-the-gate-2-15211-1409771336-22_dblbig.jpg " Oh come on man...! If you can believe this malarkey then you ain't black!! "
     
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    First of all, I obviously never said that. Second of all, unlike most of the stupid conspiracy theorists trying to hide the blame that belongs to Trump, I actually know China and Chinese people. I still have many friends in the country and my wife's maid of honor was even in Wuhan during all of this. Everything I heard first hand from all the people who stayed behind, was in keeping with what was reported. For example, most of the people I know live in Shanghai. Of all the people I talked to, no one died or even knew anyone that died. In fact, the only person I knew who got sick, was a non-Chinese woman who went to Europe on holiday, and came back to Shanghai with the virus. Otherwise, I don't know a single person who got sick or even knew anyone who got sick in Shanghai. That is an extraordinary accomplishment, considering the population density and proximity of Shanghai to Wuhan. On the contrary, my friend who was in Wuhan did know a number of people who were sick, but she reported the drop in cases as being consistent with what was being reported. In fact, despite going to visit her parents in Wuhan for Chinese New Year and getting stuck there, she was able to return to Shanghai over a month ago. So all in all, the anecdotal stories I hear first hand from friends, absolutely matches to what they are reporting.
     

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