Biden, Warren, Sanders, Yang, and Buttigieg are threatening to skip the next Democratic debate

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Biden, Warren, Sanders, Yang, and Buttigieg are threatening to skip the next Democratic debate amid a labor dispute


    So they are going to let this little group of workers deny the ENTIRE COUNTRY the right to it's political speech?

    I hope the university just cancels it tells the candidates you want to strike then strike.

    "Five top Democratic contenders for the 2020 nomination are threatening to skip next week's primary debate at Loyola Marymount University in Los Angeles in solidarity with campus food service workers who are on strike....

    ..The group asked Democratic candidates not to cross the picket line at the university where workers are on strike after contract negotiations for better wages and healthcare with Sodexo, the company that employs the workers, broke down on Friday."
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-warren-sanders-yang-buttigieg-205514272.html
     
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    Steyer gets to speak alone for the whole show? 5 outcasts will gladly fill the seats. I can go into character playing all 5 parts. (They're all acting anyways.)
     
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    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    Standing with the unions and not showing up is probably the best thing they could do. Going to the debate and and spewing the idiot ideas they have can only hurt them.
     
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    The less they talk the more votes they'll get
     
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    Who made the threat first?
     
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    I was skipping the debate anyway, for different reasons, so I guess we're all on the same page.

    No debate!
     
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    So pro union candidates are not willing to cross a picket line? Horrors!
     
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    Why the presumption that the union is in the right? No one seems interested in what the reason for the strike is.
     
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    Who is presuming that? But that is besides the point, you don't cross a picket line. It doesn't play whether you are a dem or a repub.
     
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    Democrats never bother to look at fact or reason, if a union is crying about something it must be because they are being exploited. Remember Hostess the union cried and whined their way right out of jobs as the company ceased to exist due to union demands. There is a place in this world for unions I do not deny that but they are not always right. Democrats over react to everything.
    One thing they are in for a shock about, it that unions are secretly loving Trump.
     
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    At the rate the debate ratings are dropping, would anybody notice?
     
  12. Phil

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    Why would unions favor a candidate that takes something they fought for for decades to give to their relatively few members and tries to make it mandatory for all Americans?
    While it's an endorsement that what the union wanted had good cause, it eliminates the benefits of being in the union, ultimately making unions useless.
     
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    Folks, please keep in mind the difference between legitimate private sector unions and public unions. The former did some good in the increasingly distant past. The latter are an involuntarily taxpayer funded abomination that should never have existed, and wouldn't have but for the stranglehold Democrats held on the legislature for so many years from the mid 20th century to the mid 90s.

    Public unions are a key segment of the gov-edu-UNION-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex, they are the more "hidden" branch of the media propaganda arm of the Democratic Party with an army of PR shills YOUR TAX DOLLARS FUND advocating AGAINST YOU all over the net, print, in person, etc. They are a prime mover behind lots of LW violence, threats, and general propaganda. That's why the "candidates" are in solidarity with them, woe betide a Democrat who crossed that line.

    Sick of your tax dollars paying for these bent-nosed creeps and thugs? SEE SIG.
     
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    Nothing dumber than a Democrat seeking union support for his nomination being caught crossing the picket line of a bunch of cooks, servers, and dishwashers on strike re-negotiating their contract. These are not people making 25 dollars an hour, flex-time scheduling, child care, top of the line medical and dental and getting a pension plan. This is their employer



    " Sodexo (formerly Sodexho Alliance) is a French food services and facilities management company headquartered in the Paris suburb of Issy-les-Moulineaux.[2] Sodexo is one of the world's largest multinational corporations, with 420,000 employees that represent 130 nationalities and are present on 34,000 sites in 80 countries.

    For fiscal year 2010 (ending August 2009) revenues reached €15.3 billion, with a market capitalization of €6.5 billion. Revenues by region represent 38% in North America, 37% in Continental Europe, 8% in the UK and Ireland, and 17% elsewhere.

    Sodexo serves many sectors, including private corporations, government agencies, schools from preschool through university (including seminaries and trade schools), hospitals and clinics, assisted-living facilities, military bases, and prisons. As of 2016 subsidiary Sodexo Justice Services operated support services in 122 prisons in eight countries, including 42 in the Netherlands, 34 in France, and others in Belgium, Italy, Spain, and Chile, as well as running 5 prisons directly in the UK.[3][4]"

    Trust me, these guys have had plenty of worker related controversies.
     
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    Here is some information on the union. "
    UNITE HERE is a labor union in the United States and Canada with roughly 300,000 active members.[1] The union's members work predominantly in the hotel, food service, laundry, warehouse, and casino gaming industries. The union was formed in 2004 by the merger of Union of Needletrades, Industrial, and Textile Employees (UNITE) and Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees Union (HERE).

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    Unite Here members by the Washington Monument, at the 50th anniversary of the March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom
    In 2005, UNITE HERE withdrew from the AFL-CIO and joined the Change to Win Federation, along with several other unions, including the Teamsters, Service Employees International Union (SEIU) and the UFCW. In May 2009, union president Bruce Raynor (originally from UNITE) left UNITE HERE, taking with him numerous local unions and between 105,000 and 150,000 members, mostly garment workers and a labor-owned bank, Amalgamated Bank. They formed a new SEIU affiliate called Workers United.[2]

    On September 17, 2009, UNITE HERE announced that it would re-affiliate with the AFL-CIO.[3]"

    Now these guys appear addicted to melodrama, internal strife and lawsuits. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNITE_HERE
     
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    No. The first amendment protects the people from government interference in speech. It does not require anybody to say anything.
     
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    And it's this union that is trying to prevent that free political speech.
     
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    If a business can only exist by exploiting its workers, then it shouldn’t exist.
     
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    The first amendment doesn't involve unions. It only limits government. This is the same with all of the constitution.
     
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    And it's this union that is trying to prevent that free political speech.
     
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    They can do that if they want. It is a free country.
     
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    Didn't say otherwise and it remains the fact that it's the union trying to stop a political debate and interfere in an election.
     

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