Bidenomics: Economy Continues To Falter, Unemployment Worse Than Economists Feared

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  1. LoneStarGal

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    I didn't claim "Covid" is a hoax. The way the elites have used "Covid" as an excuse to commit crimes against humanity is the hoax. They're using the propaganda of fear.

    Never in history did we lock healthy people down or shut down businesses. Covid has been a slightly more lethal flu strain than the 2018 flu outbreak. The lock downs were a programmed over-reaction, and even normally sensible officials fell for the hoax for a limited-time.

    Biden continues to sell the irrational fear (hoax).
     
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    LoneStarGal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your choice, man.
     
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    In 1918, Spanish Flu complications killed 670,000 Americans over 2 years.
    We are now approaching 500,000 deaths in just one year with complications of Covid.
    Anyone who thinks this a nothing burger hasn't lost a loved one yet or know a long-hauler. It's no joke.

    The lock-downs were because at the time, we were facing a virus that was largely an unknown - and
    given the latest variations, we are still learning. One of the most deadly periods of the Spanish
    Flu hit just when people thought they had it under control and it mutated for a second round of infections.

    It's a difference between fear and a healthy respect. I know my chances of
    being bit by a shark are next to zero, but when I'm diving, I don't stick
    my hands in a shark's mouth.
     
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    and, they want it in a month with no help, cooperation, or even staying out of the way.
     
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    if i murder an elderly cancer patient should i be acquitted because "she would have died anyway?
     
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    None of that has anything to do with Biden or his new adninistration's policies. This entire thread is based on right wing rhetoric with no basis in fact.

    The virus is why the economy is in bad shape right now. You know that.
     
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    Amen. Trump and his incompetent anti-science administration have the blood of tens of thousands of those deaths on their hands.
     
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    Neither you nor Biden understand the mental and emotional aspects of economic performance. This why we continually had economists "surprised" month after month at the failure of Obamanomics and then equally "surprised". month after month at the smashing success of Trumponomics.

    No sooner is it clear that Biden will be taking over when the "surprised!" at the downside returns. His entire term will likely be like this, though we may get a sugar high in the aftermath of big stimulus dump, but beyond that, we are likely in for a lot of surprises at the downside followed by finger pointing.

    Then when a Republican, like say Desantis takes over, that understands the emotional and mental aspects of economic excellence, the economy will respond, we will return to upside "surprises" followed by attempted credit grabbing by the Democrats, just like they did with the Trump Boom that was immediately apparent.

    With post COVID snapback, Biden could crawl back into his basement and do nothing and see 6.5% real GDP growth. Even with him screwing up everything he touches we could see 4.5% in spite of him.

    The GOP has no means to stop stimulus. The only reason it is still delayed is because they decided that pursuing their personal vendetta against Donald The Magnificent was more important than COVID relief.

    Many parents can't return to work because union Democrats refuse to return to the classroom.

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    As usual the GOP is blamed for CHINER Flu and the democrat propaganda and economic shutdown they both created..

    Anybody notice how the COVID news is all but gone now ;)

    So obvious and just as predicted all last year!!
     
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    Chiner Flu and DNC propaganda is the cause of that..
     
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    Chiner Flu and DNC propaganda is the cause of that..
     
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    Today!!!! It would be COVID-19 and Trumps fault!!!
     
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    The point you avoid is "He survived"! I to have a friend that just got out of IC and he too survived.. Many more have survived then have died from the CHiner flu, but you will hear little of that from the DNC Panic crew ;)
     
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    Not a hoax, but certainly propagandized and sensationalized, and from what I read here on PF used to blame the the economy on Trump while the Chiners remain in their leftist protected bubble of innocence..
     
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    Fake News Media suddenly discovers: Presidenting in a pandemic is unexpectedly difficult!

    Weird! NEXT WE'LL HEARING "THAT AMERICA IS “UNGOVERNABLE!”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/433915/

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    Biden overall isn't particularly competent on the economy or china virus.
     
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    He gave his word as a Biden!

    But we have more important things to cover:

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    Could you imagine if Trump had said that? There was a much better chance of Mexico paying for the wall. But they will pretend he never said that
     
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    Depends on who you talk to. Pharmaceutical companies during trial runs on humans for tests, if a person dies during the test they will mark it as failed for the drug even if that person died in a car accident for example.

    And claiming that they died of covid-19 rather than the heart attack or the cancer is just as stupid. They have no way of telling for sure so they just guess. And right now claiming that it is covid is more advantageous.
     
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    The Atlanta Fed raised it's first quarter GDP projection to over 9% for first quarter 2021.

    Latest estimate: 9.5 percent — February 18, 2021
    The GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the first quarter of 2021 is 9.5 percent on February 18, unchanged from February 17 after rounding. After this morning's releases from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and U.S. Census Bureau, the nowcast of first-quarter real residential investment growth decreased from 17.5 percent to 17.4 percent after rounding.
    https://www.frbatlanta.org/cqer/research/gdpnow.aspx

    There is no need for this huge stimulus and the best thing Biden could do right now would be to get out of the way and stop trying to inject himself into this recovery trying to claim some credit it for it, his proposed policies will have negative effects on this recovery just as they did the first time he tried them. The unemployment rate is heading to under 5%, the unfilled jobs heading to record levels. Get OUT of the way Joe and stop threatening to increase the cost of business and investing.
     
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    I've head of the Federal Reserve, but what's the Federal Reserve of Atlanta? A branch of the Fed? Didn't know they had branches. The article does state, more than once, that their GDPNow forecasting model provides a running estimate and not official numbers.

    As for the bit that I bolded above: Do you mean economic policies? If so, how much influence did Biden have over that realm as Obama's VP? Or do you mean the stay home/wear masks/stay distant pandemic policies? If so, what influence did Biden have over any of that prior to Jan. 20?
     
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    I find it comical that there are people who think the economy can change at the flip of a switch. The current economy is based on what happened in the past. This is always the case. The economy doesn’t change on a dime just because a new president is in the WH.
     
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    #BidenKilledMyJob.

    "former Keystone XL pipeline employee who lost his job when Biden stopped the energy project."


     
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    It’s amazing there are grown adults who believe the economy can turn at the flip of a switch. Any current economy is usually the result of what occurred in the past. And by past I mean more than a month.
     
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