Biden's Calls To Cut Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Veteran's Benefits

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  1. Horhey

    Horhey Well-Known Member

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    You're voting for personality then. I vote based on policy. Never gonna have a beer with the president. Policy effects people's lives.
     
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    Personality? Did I mention personality? Character as opposed to personality. Trump has a great personality and he has used it to con you.
    This guy's character is driving his policy. Policy counts for me also, and character is crucial. You like a swindler and con-man in the Whitehouse? Not me. Reagan had personality and character.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what are you arguing here - that Liberals are not so bad after all ?
     
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    Reagan's clandestine wars in Central America killed or disappeared hundreds of thousands of people and displaced millions. That's like saying General Suharto had character. Another dictator supported by Reagan and many other Presidents before and after him.
     
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    You're confused.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't think so. You seem to be arguing that Red Establishment does not want to cut medicaid and SS.
     
  7. Horhey

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    No. I just showed that Obama offered to cut it more than the Republicans proposed. They voted against it for partisan reasons. It was an Obama initiative.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    OK - I misunderstood where you were coming from. I agree that Red and Blue Establishment are often on the same page with respect to doing nasty things - trampling on individual liberty, furthering indentured servitude and so on.
     
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    We have been supporting dictators for oil and other reasons for decades. All presidents are guilty of this. This fact is a major cause in the influx of migrants from Central America. Trump's friends are dictators and it wouldn't surprise me if has dreams of expanding his personal business into NK one day. Yes, Reagan had character and personality, no doubt.
     
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    Well you couldn't get past the first sentence without lying. He was calling for a freeze on all government spending to rein in the deficit. Horrible! Simply horrible!

    Only two Presidents since Nixon have reduced the debt-to-GDP ratio: Carter and Clinton - we were actually in the black for a time under Clinton. Yes, your "tax and spend" democrats are the only ones who actually improved the situation. And I believe this Biden clip comes from when Clinton was President.
     
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    Horhey Well-Known Member

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    I provided sources and video evodence and I'm called a liar by obvious partisans. One even lauded Reagan as a good man because he heard it on cable news.
     
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    Yes, I agree that BOTH parties are screwing us. That's why we need a socialist or democratic socialist in office.
     
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    Back in 75 he voted against evacuating our allies from South Vietnam. Had the vote gone his way 10s of thousands if not more would have been murdered by communist forces.
     
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    Well, I guess there are two competing ideologies. The one or we raise Social Security benefits and stuff, or the other one where we cut Social programs to save money.

    Does anyone think that our system is about to collapse? Where it would be urgent to cut spending. And I mean the programs that are required to be funded? You know the big three social security, Medicare, and Medicaid. And while we're at it then cut VA benefits too.
     

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