Bigotry nonsense

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  1. Maccabee

    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    Since the rise of gay rights people have called those who are against it bigots and homophobes. I'm neither a bigot nor do I fear homosexuals. Bigotry is mainly based on who a person is not what he does. So am I a pedophobe for speaking or not accepting pedophiles?
     
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    Short answer, no.
    Extreme example: Inciting people to kill suspected pedophiles or pederasts is illegal.
    To state that pedophilia is wrong or a crime as is rape of children is ok.
    To accuse someone of being a pedophile or pederast is risky legally, especially if it is a false statement.


    A pedophile is a criminal by definition of Law, and is also a statutory rapist when they attack children ages 1-17 in most States children in that age group, are not of consenting age.

    No one has to accept homosexuals or anyone else for that matter, however, bigotry, which is discrimination against people
    based on Color, Race, Ethnicity, National Origin, Age, Gender, Sexual Orientation.

    That is, offensive language, as a basis for job or service related discrimination, refusing to hire someone, housing, public transportation, etc....

    Nobody controls how a person thinks, just public conduct that violates the Civil rights of others.
     
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    Simple Definition of bigot
    : a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)

    You decide if u are or not
    What do you have against gay people? Have they harmed you?
     
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    I support Civil rights equality for all people, as did Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

    Civil rights are important today as when Rosa Parks refused to step to the back of the bus on December 5, 1955, if we do not all lock step together on the civil rights issue, then civil rights become a lost cause or the champion of a privileged few.

    Either everyone has civil rights or no one will have them eventually as civil rights are eroded.
     
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    You forgot religious discrimination.
     
  6. Maccabee

    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    They were fighting for equality because you can't change your color. However you can change who you go to bed with.
     
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    I did ! I always miss one as I am not cutting & pasting....
     
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    What you have against polygamists? Have they ever hurt you?
     
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    You can't answer my question?
    I have nothing against polygamists. Are you going to dodge again?
     
  10. DoctorWho

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    And that is an individual matter entirely.

    Example: Aldoph Hitler persecuted Jehovah's Witnesses, all he asked was that they sign a form renouncing that religion, most refused to do so.

    Prisoners of War are often asked to sign a confession for War crimes, most refuse.

    Most people have principals you may not agree with, that is your right to dissent, however, all people have a right to exist as the people they believe they were destined to be, not what others believe they should be, this is an inherent right guaranteed by civil rights.

    As a Police Officer I learned that you do not enforce the law for the benefit of a few, it benefits all people.

    I support civil rights for every human alive.

    That does not mean I condone crime or violation of anyone one person's individual civil rights while Supporting civil rights in general.
     
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    You can also change childish thinking.
     
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    I'm against any sin, whether it be gay relationships or polygamists.
     
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    I don't know - why do you have an irrational fear of children (pedophobe)? If yes, then you are bigoted toward children.

    If you do not accept gay people as US citizens with all the rights and privileges accorded as such - or as human beings, then you are bigoted against gay people.

    Time to stop rationalizing and (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)-footing around - accept your bigotry. Nothing worse than a namby-pamby bigot - "... oh I'm
    not a bigot, I just don't accept gay people ....".

    Really?
     
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    Let me know when you go a day without a sin.
    Sin, thought, word, or deed.

    But you dodged yet again.
    So does that mean you actually believe you are a bigot? You sure come off that way. I guess the thread is over. You are a bigot by your answer and the definition of bigot.

    denial anger grief depression acceptance
    you appear to be at denial
     
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    In a civil rights movement, there are always unpopular groups, that is why even if that group is the K.K.K. they also have civil rights, you cannot support only the groups you like, you must also support the ones you do not.
     
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    Judge not that yee not be judged for as you judge others, so shall yee be judged.
    Sin is sin, to tell a lie is as bad as fornication or adultery, we all sin daily, all you have to do is repent daily, Jesus said nothing about homosexuality, he did say the greatest commandment is to love one another, he did not exclude anyone from that love.

    He also said: Harlots and Publicans would precede many into the kingdom of God.
     
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    "Luke 7:36-50English Standard Version (ESV)

    A Sinful Woman Forgiven
    36 One of the Pharisees asked him to eat with him, and he went into the Pharisee's house and reclined at the table. 37 And behold, a woman of the city, who was a sinner, when she learned that he was reclining at table in the Pharisee's house, brought an alabaster flask of ointment, 38 and standing behind him at his feet, weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears and wiped them with the hair of her head and kissed his feet and anointed them with the ointment. 39 Now when the Pharisee who had invited him saw this, he said to himself, “If this man were a prophet, he would have known who and what sort of woman this is who is touching him, for she is a sinner.” 40 And Jesus answering said to him, “Simon, I have something to say to you.” And he answered, “Say it, Teacher.”

    41 “A certain moneylender had two debtors. One owed five hundred denarii, and the other fifty. 42 When they could not pay, he cancelled the debt of both. Now which of them will love him more?” 43 Simon answered, “The one, I suppose, for whom he cancelled the larger debt.” And he said to him, “You have judged rightly.” 44 Then turning toward the woman he said to Simon, “Do you see this woman? I entered your house; you gave me no water for my feet, but she has wet my feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. 45 You gave me no kiss, but from the time I came in she has not ceased to kiss my feet. 46 You did not anoint my head with oil, but she has anointed my feet with ointment. 47 Therefore I tell you, her sins, which are many, are forgiven—for she loved much. But he who is forgiven little, loves little.” 48 And he said to her, “Your sins are forgiven.” 49 Then those who were at table with him began to say among[a] themselves, “Who is this, who even forgives sins?” 50 And he said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”
     
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    And this has to do with gayism how ?
     
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    No more, no less a sin than the 1 million others.
     
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    If you tell a lie, it is the same as fornication or adultery or stealing or cheating in business.

    All sins stink alike, you repent daily and you are washed clean.

    Only blasphemy against the holy spirit has no forgiveness.

    "Matthew 12:32 - And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the [world] to come."
     
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    Heads are going to explode. Don't use human logic.
    I was going to say minds will explode, but that would be wrong.
     
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    do you think Gays having rights means they might try to make you Gay?

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    and yet you say NOTHING about straight people who engage in non-vaginal sex or any sex out of wedlock.

    why? cause you're a hypocrite.

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    you can't change the gender you are attracted to.

    but I understand that you're only 19 so are a little uninformed and/or misinformed.
     
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    John Moses Browning was another great American !
     
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    Pedophelia has a very specific meaning - one of the parties is not a consenting adult. Apples and donkey balls, kiddo.

    If you don't believe in sodomy, don't suck a dick. Don't believe in same-sex marriage? Don't marry someone of the same sex. Don't believe in interracial marriage? Don't marry outside your ethnic group. Don't believe in abortion? Don't fekkin' have one. But your freedom in those areas ends right there - with YOUR choice. Trying to legislate someone else's choice, or getting in their face about said choices invites them to get right back into yours. THAT is freedom of speech. It stops the government from punishing you or ostracizing you for saying stupid and offensive BS, not your fellow citizens.

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    The definition states that a person unfairly dislikes others. I don't "hate" drunks, but I don't allow people to come into my home that are drinking. I have no tolerance for smokers so I keep my distance, but what they do in the comfort of their home is their personal business.

    In Georgia, we passed a law that stated ministers would not have to perform same sex marriages if it conflicted with their beliefs. The governor vetoed the law we wanted. So, gays can force their beliefs on us and if we object, we're the ones who are wrong????

    The "logic" of liberals escapes me. I don't care what a person does to the extent that they do not force it on me. I would not perform a same sex marriage; if I were a baker, I wouldn't make the cake. But, if you want to marry someone of the same sex - do it. Just don't expect me to bless the event.

    All of this do what you want stuff without restraint begs the questions:

    If gays have all these rights, how about the guy with several wives?
    Should you be able to marry the family dog?
    Should white supremacists be granted the same rights?

    Where do we draw the line - or do we draw any lines? Do what you want, but don't expect to force it on me. What the law says won't matter. My Liberties are not up for discussion.
     
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