Birth control pills for men

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  1. Thedimon

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    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/20/health/male-birth-control-pill-study/index.html

    I wonder - dropping testosterone levels to such a low number - wouldn’t that impact libido and cause erectile disfunction?

    I think inventing a functional pill would prevent many unwanted pregnancies.
     
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    Low Testosterone in Men causes health issues, weight gain, gynecomastia, bone density issues, muscle mass loss.....
     
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    The article does mention issues with libido loss in some of the subjects and I’d be amazed if something like this could be achieved without side effects. That said, female birth control pills often have all sorts of unpleasant side effects too, they’re just not talked about very much.

    While lots of people make a moral argument about having equal birth control options for men and women, there remain the underlying practical limitations given that the vast majority of the process of conception happens within the woman’s body so that’s inevitably going to be where most of the possible interventions would need to be applied.
     
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    Good post especially this very important point : ""That said, female birth control pills often have all sorts of unpleasant side effects too, they’re just not talked about very much.""

    ...and side effects for women are not considered serious...
     
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    So would low libido and erectile dysfunction :)... the scientific world sure seems slow in producing a male birth control solution..
     
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    I predict this becoming a soyboy fad.

    Plz do some research on BC before loading ur system up with hormones. They're not good for most of you (men or women). Condoms work just fine if used properly.
     
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    I agree, no one should be forced to put drugs or foreign objects in their bodies.

    But even condoms have a failure rate.

    AND no one is obligated to use any form of BC.
     
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    The failure rate of condoms is mostly (and according to some sources ENTIRELY) caused by user error- wrong size/shape, failure to check expiration or inspect for damage, improper fit, etc.
     
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    Yup, humans use them....so they have a failure rate...
     
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    Uncle Ferd gonna take `em...

    ... so's he can get alla sex he wants.
     
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    They just came up with a female birth control they can take right before sex. It comes in a mint flavored chewable tablet.


    They're called.... Peidickamints!
     
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    Great idiots who cannot follow simple directions are reproducing. Welcome the the idiocracy.
     
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    So, without filtering out those birth control pill hormones still in urine at the water treatment plants where we get our drinking water, aren't we doing the same thing to men, but with less obvious impact?

    There are studies which show that males have less testosterone today and it has been in decline since the widespread use of birth control pills. I'm just connecting dots they haven't, yet. Maybe they don't want to connect them publicly?
     
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    If people are doing the studies then why would you think YOU are connecting the dots.

    And I don't believe anyone knows the cause. Correlation does not imply causation.

    I do know that you don't want low T. One of the big advantages of adding muscle is that T levels go up. Fat results in high levels of estrogen. So maybe the problem is that people are getting fat and lazy. ;)
     
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    Thats part of it. Soy, pesticides, antidepresents, even fragrances all have simulated hormonal effects that destabilize the reproductive system. Even the electromagnetic feilds of our wi-fi and cell phone networks are damaging.

    All these things together culminate in a rapidly declining human fertility rate as well as an increasing rate of genetic dissorders.

    Its almost like someone wants to depopulate the planet or something...
     
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    Bull.

    And a thousand angels can dance on the head of a pin.
     
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    That's why.
     
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    I didn't know that.

    I don't know. I think it's more they don't care. They think there are enough folks on the earth. No big deal if a few suffer, or quite a few. If no one has any definitive proof, and there are no suits, meh, they don't care. Follow the money.


    See below for what I mean.
     
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    This attitude blames the individual for things we have proof of, supposedly. If there is proof, why do we use the chicken or egg theory?
     
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    I'm sure that would be a great birth control--not. Not many men will take pills to reduce their testosterone to castration levels.
     
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    But the "real world" failure rate is much higher than people claim. I know at least half a dozen people who are results of condom failures. And the sample size is from families I know well enought to have that information from--maybe 20 or so.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Yup, humans use them....so they have a failure rate...


    I see you agree with me so your "but" confuses me.

    BTW, unless you're a doctor I really don't believe you could have that much information on how these people were conceived.
     
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    Women have side effects from birth control drugs and pregnancy.
     
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    Wi-fi is bad, and it gets worse every time we move to the next 'G' (3G > 4G > 5G etc). But the smartmeters they put on electrical boxes are far worse. Those things put out a rediculous signal because the power companies really hate to pay for manpower to go around and collect meter readings. The effect on our reproductive systems is just one of many problems associated with high frequency communications. They also cause damage in the brain, and EM induced headaches/nausea are increasing in frequency. Many people actually electrmagnetically sheild a room in their house where they go to recouperate from the EM exposure we all get to varying degrees. As with everything else, some people are more sensitive to it than others, but we're all being effected.

    As one example, if you read through all the paperwork that comes with your cell phone, it will most likely tell you to hold it an inch or two away from your head when using it. The safety regulations for microwave exposure from cell phones is calculated with the presumption that you'll follow the instructions and not press the phone up to your ear. If you do (and everyone does) you're getting a more concentrated (or focussed) exposure of microwaves passing through your tissues, and increasing the risk that those tissues (and your very DNA) is being damaged by those energy waves.

    Of course, if the made cell phones weak enough so as to not damage your tissues via too-close proximity, they would have to use far more advanced/sensitive receiving equipment on the towers, which would be very expensive.
     
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    Well, I guess I have a different relationship with my friends/relatives than you do. I know about 5 or 6 people that are the product of condom failures. How do I know? Well, the mothers told my wife (in the case of one of her friends) or myself. This isn't a teenaged fumbling thing. The people I know that have had this happen are in some cases people with professional degrees.

    I agree with you that condoms have a failure rate. My aside was that I think that failure rate is much higher than public health science admits.
     

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