Black People Need a Safe State in America—Let’s Make It Georgia

Are you denying that black people are empirically people, regardless of what the state says?

Some peoples have considered the earth to be flat. Does that make the earth flat or does reality not care about their opinion. I know you will refuse to answer.

WHICH people get to inform the state and WHICH DON'T matters.

I agree that the later situation is just as likely as the likelihood you are correct about black people's personhood being solely determined by the Almighty State. Glad we've reached a mutual agreement.

 

No, 99% of the people I debate are capable of constructing an honest discussion. I get along better with honest people whom I disagree with than with dishonest people that I do agree with.

 

Except, many don't. They just use different avatar. You probably argued for an against the same person many time on PF without knowing.
The only difference today is that contrary to your argument, I'm the one being honest and doing it with the only avatar I've.

 

If you aren't being honest about your own positions, then you aren't engaging in an honest discussion. As for how many avatars you have, I can't confirm that, and you've already told me that you don't always mean what you say, so I can't even take you at your word about that. You probably do only have one avatar, however. It just has multiple personalities.

 

Not really, just that I can put myself in more than one frame of mind for debating purpose. Back when I was a youngster, we had debate at school when we had to pick a position from a lot. Sometime we'd get to be the ones for, other times the ones against. We didn't complain...

 

Because you were honest about it. I did CX for four years, btw. State finalist.

 

And agin with the innuendo. I'm honest about my position. I've been honest from the start. I guess you're just not used to honest people here at PF.

 

Black Americans will be much safer in Georgia when their Constitutional right to carry concealed firearms is restored. Ditto all the other Georgians.

 

Then what is your ACTUAL position, seeing as you've contradicted yourself?

 

Rule number 1: it's planet earth. There is no such thing as a safe space.
Rule:2 Skin ain't nothing but wrapping paper. It tells you nothing about what's inside. The only things that matter are mind and heart.
Rule:3 every race and ethnic group has it's complete a-holes a every race and ethnic group has it's share of decent human being. You tend to get what you look for.

 

Rule number 1: it's planet earth. There is no such thing as a safe space.
Rule:2 Skin ain't nothing but wrapping paper. It tells you nothing about what's inside. The only things that matter are mind and heart.
Rule:3 every race and ethnic group has it's complete a-holes and every race and ethnic group has it's share of decent human being. You tend to get what you look for.

 

Again, So?

Was the USA a particularly pleasant place to live? For anyone not White and male?

Nazi Germany was, my studies indicate, not at all a bad place in the 1930s IF you were not a Jew, Rom, or any one of the many people the Nazis called "undesirable".

Its easy to make your country pleasant for a favored group at the expense of everyone else.

 

Asians did quite well, so did a lot of African Americans even with the deck stacked against them.

 

Well I can't speak for all of your posts in all of the threads out there, but in this thread, I think it's you.

 

Which just goes to show that "legal" doesn't inherently mean 'right'. And refutes all those "it's the LAW" people in the Immigration postings here. Someone who comes into this country, doesn't hurt anyone and works to make a living is a good citizen NOT a bad person "by definition" since he is breaking a bad and unjust law.

 

I didn't contradicted myself.

 

You've said that you don't care about the founding fathers, but you also said they should be revered as visionaries. You've disputed the idea that Nazis were authoritarian (with the braindead "it was legal at the time" argument), but you've called them authoritarian yourself. Those are contradictions.

 

Not in this debaye I didn't. You seem confuse..

 

I'm not confused at all. Did you or did you not make these mutually exclusive arguments?

 

How? At gunpoint?

 

There are not mutually exclusive. It all depend on your POV.

 

Actually it's quite different. In a collectivist model you work to EAT - you do not sell your labour, and there is no profit with which to buy labour. Labour is in exchange for the materials of survival - property, water, mutually interdependent relationships, etc. It looks like 'slavery', but since it's voluntary it escapes that designation.

As for "Worker Owned Means of Production" .... that's just another iteration of capitalism. Or rather, a different iteration of company ownership. Nothing to do with collectivism, nor even economic models per se.

 

Either the Nazi regime was authoritarian or it wasn't. You've argued both. Those are mutually exclusive. Have you ever heard about the law of noncontradiction? This is kind of logic 101. I mean . . . I've tutored logic, and this is literally logic 101. It's in the first course. No further than the second chapter in most books.

 

All quite deliberate. Takes a nanosecond to figure out who the White Supremacists actually are.

 

Yes and I can argue both becaise depending on who you were both statements were true.