Black Reparations.

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  1. Turtledude

    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    Have you ever heard anyone else claim that the real slavery was Spanish Kings having citizens of Portugal sold into new world slavery?
     
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    Telling us where your post goes are you?
     
  3. Esau

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    you've actually learnt something new, how about a thank you?
     
  4. Esau

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    Yooo how's it going :cheerleader:
     
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    I am still waiting for you to establish a fanciful bunch of bullshit that has no support. and it is irrelevant to blacks getting reparations. the vast majority of slaves that came to the new world were from Africa and Portugal had a major role in facilitating that slave trade
     
  6. Esau

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    Gee whiz, that looks like something wiki would post lmao. Ketchup bro, scholars never stop digging up new info, you're behind the curve squire.
     
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    Turtledude Well-Known Member Donor

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    why are you so reticent to cite something that establishes your claim.
     
  8. Esau

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    Oh! You're interested now? :brushteeth:. :lol:
     
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    No, i think you are making it up to establish a red herring, and when I called you on it, you cannot back it up.
     
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  10. Esau

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    sooo, youre not interested, not even a little tiny bit? :confused:
     
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    what I am interested in doing is showing the board that you have made false claims that you cannot back up and so far you are doing everything possible to help me achieve that end
     
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    The help society can require something of the recipient. Making sure someone has job skills isn't just about empathy, but social order.
    Sure, it is. Systemic racism is real even if it has been given a bad rep by Marxists saying systemic racism is deliberate when the best evidence is that much of it is not. Overt private discrimination still exists between races and blacks arguably get the worst of it.
    Huh? It's about blacks here in 2022 experiencing the negative impact of racism, past and present. It matters not who captured blacks, sold them, bought them, or discriminated against them during Jim Crow. None of it matters. We help people in need because of their needs, not because they're black, brown, or whatever.
    I don't think you can explain how these programs stack up against the better schools, safer communities, etc. that many people have. Poor whites have many of the same problems. Again, we should help those in need.
    A lot of Jews have simply married into anonymity. It's not the same thing.
    "They" reasoned to themselves they should have social conditions that destroy family life? You decided to influence your culture (white culture) to value marriage more?
    You're putting it on individual blacks when they're just the product of their social, political and economic environment. Like you. Like me.
    For every with an IQ of 125, there's another guy with 75. You might try coming up with a plan how we help the guy with 75.
     
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  13. Esau

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    thats grate! the great forum saviour then huh, like the ppl here need saving and cant discern or research for themselves. good job champ, ican can go and watch daddy teach his son a valuable lesson now (england v usa about to kick off......)
     
  14. LangleyMan

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    The "war on poverty" ended decades ago.
    What on earth are you talking about? Who is going to change what culture? Who will deal with the overt racism some whites continue to practice?

    No race, ethnic group or even religion controls a culture or subculture.
    This has to do with what?
     
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    And of course, black people are the only people on earth who have ever faced suffering, struggle and injustice. We know that you believe that, or at least that your suffering is greater than all others and is all that matters. All victims of the evils of white people. Victims have no responsibility for their situation.

    That belief or shades of it produces a mindset of entitlement, like someone owes you payment of a long overdue bill, and the resentment of that failure to pay eats away at you everyday and over-rides everything else. I've seen a lot of people white and black, ruin their entire lives clinging to that kind of belief. The problem is that nothing anybody does for those people will make that bitterness go away, and every effort we make to appease them is seen as proof their entitlement is real... and the resentment grows rather than fades. As it does so in the black community, the number of people who carry that chip on their shoulder grows- and the chip gets bigger. They become more offensive and aggressive, and the image of black people is damaged more with every encounter with them. Right now, there are extensive efforts to portray black people as fine citizens.... TV shows, advertising- show black people in far greater proportion than is consistent with our population, in higher average positions than is consistent with reality, with far better appearance and class than is consistent with reality. They are going overboard selling the concept of black people fully participating in our society, and nobody noticing any differences between us. The news reports crime and avoids identifying race unless it benefit the perception of racial justice. We shield blacks from rightful criticism, to try to calm things down- literally fool the public for the benefit of the black community. Preferences of all kinds are being made for black people, and that's not new- it was happening 50 years ago. One would think that should have had positive results, but it hasn't. We have some very fine black people of course, we always have had, but now they access station and wealth and everything other races do. But the lesser side of their culture has not taken advantage or the opportunity to move up- but of the opportunity to play a game of racism, guilt tripping and even greater irresponsibility. I think it's at a kind of tipping point. It's up to the black community today to get it's culture healthy. The opportunity is there. The attitude- not. It's either going to get better or they lose that opportunity. It's up to them.
     
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    Not in the last 500 years.
    The slave trade was in its heyday long before machine guns.
    There's far more to the end of colonialism than that.
     
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    Never heard that one, but wouldn't be a surprise. Of course, slavery was a common and accepted condition all over the world at one time or another, and much of the history is anecdotal. I would assume there are fewer people in slavery today than ever before in history- but I know that the area with the most people in slavery today- is Africa. Allegedly, 9 million by one report.
     
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    Tldr plus I'm white, so that basically consigns your whole rant to the dustbin since you so desperately want me to be black. Smh.
     
  19. Esau

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    Well that's possibly to do with the wars created across Africa by Europeans which held back development, naturally.

    Ok, rifles then, same difference.

    The end of colonialism was purely down to Africans out thinking Europeans and getting their hands on European guns and turning them back on the colonizer.
     
  20. Esau

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    I read that the place where there is most slavery in the world is eastern Europe and USA (penal system).

    Try cleaning your own yard before dumping in your neighbours.
     
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    Not even a nice try- equating slavery and the penal system. Reading that article taught you a new trick- but, sorry, no sale. All races wind up in prison when they commit crimes and get caught. Costs vastly more to contain them that they produce. The racial mix is heavier with blacks, but proportionate to the level of crimes committed by the group. Not racially based, but offense based. In no way connected to slavery.

    With the dilution of meanings that seems to be convenient to so many, it's harder to define slavery. Numbers now frequently count forced marriages and things different than what we think of as the labor slavery of centuries past. True slavery seems to be more in the lower third-world nations, and of course criminal enterprises. N Korea and some others beside African nations, but no legitimate slavery in accepted in the western world.

    No matter. believe what you want.
     
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    Ukraine is the epicenter of the sex slave trade. You can even buy babies there for £10,000.
     
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    Why don't you tell us again that the African dictator and genocidal maniac Idi Aman was actually a really great guy...?
     
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    The evidence is everywhere. The hatred of merit and equality, just for starters. Then there's evils like AA ...
     
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    It's CULTURE.
     
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