Blacks claim arab muslims are racist

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  1. jimmy rivers

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    http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/1...ay-arab-muslims-more-racist-daniel-greenfield

    "AFRICAN REFUGEES SAY ARAB MUSLIMS MORE RACIST THAN EUROPEANS"

    "Arabs hate black people. And that is not from today, it is in their blood," says Aboubakr, a young man from Senegal who is hoping eventually to cross over into Europe. He spent almost a year in Morocco's capital Rabat before coming to this forest camp near the Spanish border and his experiences there left him feeling bitter.

    "Friends of mine were attacked with a knife. Bandits target us because they know we cannot go to the police, even if we are robbed and hurt. Having no papers, we will be caught instead. Blacks have no rights here."

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    "According to blacks living/visiting arab muslim countries, arabs are more racist than Europeans they have met. There is also a long history of racism amongst arab muslims against blacks, who have mis-treated them for centuries. Even the arabic language has elements of racism, where the word for "black person" is "abd", or slave.
     
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    There’s a neat circular irony in the claim that Arabs are racist because “it’s in their blood”. All this really demonstrates is that all humans are capable of racism regardless of their own race. It’s almost as if people of different races aren’t anything like as distinct as the racists (including those behind “Front Page Magazine”) would like to imagine.
     
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    I think its more of a class thing than a color thing.......
     
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    Excellent observation.........
     
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    Um, yeah that makes sense...NOT. WRONG. Maybe if you actually came from the mideast instead of lived in an expat KSA compound you might actually know WTF you're talking about.

    The arabs were responsible for the kidnapping of black africans and implementation of the slave trade, and the current horrendous mis-treatment of darker-skinned people in places like KSA in the current time frame.
     
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    The desperate are the antisemitic, jewhating trolls who try to blame Israel for everything else, and even more desperate are the arab muslims who will say ANYTHING to deflect the reality and facts about their horrific racism, oppression of minorities, terrorism, violence, lack of basic human rights in their countries, etc.

    Uh, yeah that projective nonsense makes sense.... :roll: Third-grade level arguing ability. Guess you missed the poll in my signature where arab muslims LOVE ISRAEL EVEN MORE THAN THAT ISRAELI JEWS DO.

    http://www.africaspeaks.com/reasoning/index.php?topic=4518.0;wap2

    "You’ll be hard pressed to find black Africans who would make such a sweeping characterization. The allegation, which Harik does not directly respond to, is that there is a disturbing pattern of anti-African racism in many Arab countries, and that this attitude translates to a widespread Arab indifference to African struggles and sensibilities...In fact, Arab racism is deeply embedded in the history of North Africa itself and in the Arabic language. The Arab conquest of North Africa and the subsequent conversion and marginalization of the original Berbers and Moors of North Africa and parts of the Sahel were undergirded by a racist ethos. Till this day, the descendants of the dark-skinned Moors, the Berbers, and other non-Arab peoples are confined to the fringes of North African and North-west African society--in Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Mauritania, etc. The plight of the descendants of blacks (some of whose inhabitation of the Maghrib predated the Arab conquest of the 9th century and others who came to North Africa as slaves, captives, and free migrants) is worse than that of the Berbers. In Morocco, Tunisia, and throughout much of the Arab world, the only ticket to social visibility for blacks is soccer. Becoming a soccer star gives a black person access to coveted corridors of society and enables them to "marry up", racially speaking. This is a sad commentary on the state of race relations in any society. So, while Harik is right that a uniquely complex racial taxonomy is at work in much of the Arab world, this reality hardly detracts from the presence of an unspoken, normalized, and stealthily institutionalized racism which casts black people as the dregs of society who must prove themselves worthy of social recognition and privileges. Arab racism is so deep it is inscribed in the fundamental semantic structure of the Arabic language. Till this day, the generic word or for a black person is the preface "abd," which translates as "slave," as in "Abd"-allah (slave or servant of God). This linguistic norm, among many other racially-charged ones, is an expressive constant which holds true for the entire Arab-speaking world regardless of dialect and orthography.
     
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    FROM A PALESTINIAN, NO LESS (I wonder if the anti-Israel trolls will attack her as well :roll: ):

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/06/201362472519107286.html

    Confronting anti-black racism in the Arab world
    The Arab slave trade is a fact of history, and anti-black racism in the region is something that must be addressed.

    Susan Abulhawa is a Palestinian writer and the author of the international bestselling novel, Mornings in Jenin (Bloomsbury 2010). She is also the founder of Playgrounds for Palestine, an NGO for children.

    "The Arab slave trade is a fact of history and anti-black racism is a fact of current reality, a shameful thing that must be confronted in Arab societies. Though I claim no expertise on the subject, I think that applying notions of racism as it exists in the US will preclude a real understanding of the subject in the Arab world."



     
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    Not much.. There were few Muslims in West Africa during the slave trade years. Most slave ships to America were owned by Sephardic Jews.

    You have some weird idea that Americans were confined to compounds which simply isn't true.
     
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    Which means what exactly? Who made any claims that the "only blacks taken for the slave trade were from West africa?"

    Are you pretending that arab muslims were not responsible for the slave trade? That it was not arabs who were rounding up black africans?


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    Living as an outsider in a compound is not equivalent to being a native citizen.

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    They weren't buying slaves in East Africa.

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    It's pretty clear that there is endemic, persistent racism in arab muslim societies against blacks, who they see as inferior.

    What's also interesting is how the media focuses on the US and its treatment of blacks historically, while ignoring the plight of blacks in arab muslim countries.

    Even the arab activists and authors, including the pal arab one listed above, has come out against this silence, as has al jazeera.
     
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    There is racism everywhere (including wherever you currently are).

    US media focuses on the US. Middle Eastern media will focus on the Middle East. I doubt there are many Arabic news sources looking in the history of race-relations in the US and it’s contemporary consequences either.
     
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    Not according to posters like moon, who claim that most of the world's problems are due to the existence of Israel/jews. According to the anti-jew/Israel posters here, there is no racism in or terrorism from arab muslim countries, that's only in Israel. Notice how so few of them enter such a thread when their belief system is destroyed.

    So how come so few of those arab news sources besides al jazeera are covering the racism in arab countries against blacks?
     
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    Arabs on both coasts are darker than in the interior.. Yemeni are darker because they have been a crossroads for the Indus Valley and East Africa for a thousand years.
     
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    Responding to other people's stupidity with equivalent stupidity of your own is, well, stupid obviously.

    How may news sources aimed at a Middle Eastern audience have you assessed to reach that conclusion?
     
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    I don't think Jews are going to have the same level of success getting Muslims to accept blacks as they had with white Christians.
     
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    This is more than likely true. In the case of Mauritania it is without doubt true. I have travelled to many Arab countries and I do not recall seeing a mixed racial couple ever once.
    https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/sep/12/black-mauritania-slavery-un

    Then again, Israelis are just as guilty. Jewish Zionists from Ethiopia are not treated very well in Israel.
    https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/c...irlifted-ethiopian-jews-face-racism-in-israel
     
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    Thanks for your input.
    I too have traveled to many Mid-East Arab countries over a period of 10 - 11 months however I don't recall seeing one Black individual in that region of the Islamic World.

    Of course your right about the infamous treatment of Blacks in Israel which, unlike Arabic countries, has received $Trillions in U.S. aid.

    This whole thread is simply another pitifully transparent excuse to slander all Muslims while the racist excesses of the US funded Zionist State characteristically go unmentioned.
     
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    And you won't, because arab muslims despise blacks, and just being seen with one is enough to get an arab killed by her family members.

    They are treated better than by the egyptians who shoot them as they travel across egypt to come to Israel. Did you ever ask why would they travel thousands of miles across the arab world to come to Israel if it treated them so poorly?
     
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    LOL, I do not disagree with you. That said, sometimes people need a good kick in the face when their comments warrant it.

    I read about half a dozen arab muslim news sources/publications per day, and never come across much mention of their racism, though if you ask one privately many will say blacks are unclean and deserve to be slaves. As someone from the region, I can affirm the quotes in the OP definitively.
     
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    I have seen 'some' (as Arabs) throughout the Arab world and 'lots' (as Moslem, non-Arabs) in places like Libya.

    Probably.

    That is certainly BS. Nubians are highly regarded and trusted in every city of Egypt. I have found them to be employed in the capacity of many professions where trustworthiness is the most important attribute: Shipping, civil guards, etc.

    I hope I won't have to give you a lesson on Zionism. There is an ample amount of information on the internet if you are not familiar with the concept.
     
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    Yeah, another poster loaded with facts...NOT.

    https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/features/2015/7/23/being-black-in-egypt

    http://www.cairoscene.com/LifeStyle/The-Reality-of-Racism-in-Egypt

    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2013/07/201371817106275826.html

    http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2013/07/black-egyptians-immigrants-complain-of-daily-racism/

    You keep talking rookie, you're looking fantastic right now. Try some facts on for a change, they might fit.

    Sonny boy, you couldn't give a lesson right now on playing hopscotch. As for zionism, perhaps you could explain however, why zionism is a problem but arab nationalism and how arab muslim countries' legal foundation being based on sharia law is not. You could also tell us why arab muslim nations so badly mistreat minorities, which is the thread OP.
     
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    At 70 years old I doubt that I can be considered anyone's 'sonny' .... and if you cannot refer to 'Zionism' in the context that I introduced it then this dialogue is already doomed. Your lack of fact-gathering and quivering, navigational coherency leaves no desire for more of the same.
     
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    70 years, yeah sure thing bob...

    FYI, this thread is on arab muslim racism - you want to discuss Israel - GO START YOUR OWN THREAD ON IT.

    As for "fact-gathering", it has not gone unnoticed how you won't touch my plethora of links with a 200-foot pole, no surprise there, bob.
     

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