Bleak Prospects for the GOP

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    November, 2018: The Reckoning

    Trumpery is driving Americans into the Democratic Party.
    Despite the frothy sales pitch and fake "feel good" propaganda, Americans recognize that their agenda is a loser:

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    They still cannot get their act together:

     
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    These shifts were happening way before Trump, it has been well known that the country has been shifting left for more then a decade. To lay that at the feet of Trump would be to ignore the demographic shifts this country has been going through for a very long time.

    Now the GOP not able to get together is a whole nother kettle of fish, as they say. The Republican party is going through changes as well and you could very well see it split eventually into two distinct parties. One very conservative and another which would be very moderate. But before all the democrats star cheering they should take a look at their moderate wing. Which as they well know has been having the same issues with their far left. It is not unimaginable that in the next fifty years that the two moderate wings of the parties feeling dispossessed by their current parties do not both break away and form a new moderate party. Kind of like how the southern Democrats left and joined the Republicans.

    Parties change
     
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    Yea, and Trump wont win the election.....oh wait, all you people were totally wrong about the election. You have zero credibility.
     
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    And a few years ago, numbfuks on the right claimed that Obama wouldn't win. So, you have zero credibility.

    Or does that blather only go one way?
     
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    LOL, bad comparison. Really bad.

    The huge majority of D's and R's expected obuma to win both in 2008 and 2012, polls before the elections showed the same. A few claimed he would not win, but they were ridiculed.

    The 2016 election was very different. The huge majority of media, polls, pundits, politicians, declared Hilary would win and stated Trump was a clown who could not win. Polls before the election declared Hilary the winner. obuma and all the D's declared the election process secure and unhackable and trustworthy.

    The day after the election when it was clear Trump won, all those people were stunned and did an about face. All of them were wrong.

    So you have zero credibility. You just have propaganda, and a lack of knowledge of even very recent events. You FAIL.
     
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    More money in our pockets by our president looks bleak for the left not the right.
     
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    Trump is not going to be on the ticket in 2018. That does not bode well for Republicans who are busy trying to ride that balance between wholly embracing every moronic and racist statement made by Trump and risk the Trumpettes not showing up on ballot day.

    Meanwhile, Democrats are currently enjoying one of the largest margins in terms of enthusiasm gap in US polling history. Oh, and Republicans are retiring at record rates.
     
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    When do the Republicans tax cuts kick in, next week ?
     
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    I enjoy seeing your daily new threads again announcing how much President Trump has you in an endless redundant circle eating your brain.

    Just think how much money I would have it I had $1 for every "Trump can't win" message that has been posted on this forum.
     
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    Tremendous work, as usual, Bumps

    There's a blue wave forming out there on that Atlantic horizon.

    The fruited plain will be littered with bloated republican carcasses when it sweeps across the USA this fall... :thumbsup: :democrat:
     
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    I didnt think dems would tie DACA to the next spending bill but I could be wrong

    Its such a mess in washington
     
  12. Natty Bumpo

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    If you don't like the numbers and can't find any surveys that contradict them, you'll just have to pretend that everybody is wrong.
     
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    Desperate Trump worshipers need to pretend that all those polls that do not venerate their messiah must be wrong, but the 2016 election polls accurately confirmed a rapidly closing gap as the election approached, and Clinton's 2.9 million popular edge ended up being only 1.1% off, closer than 2012.

    If you have alternative polls that you fancy, please post them, by all means.
     
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    You seem to have invested your entire emotional health in polls

    This far away the polls said hillary was a shoe-in and you were happy as a lark

    and me?

    I was concerned but far from giving up based on bad news from liberal polls

    I expect republican losses because that is standard in off year elections

    But there is nothing to do now except go about my business as I always do

    In the case of liberals who are already hyperventalating after their 2016 shock I wounder iwhat you will do if the Tooth Fairy passes you by a second time?
     
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    This just in from democrats: the sun has lost power.
     
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    Bush tried the "tiny temporary tax cut for the middle class, massive tax cut for the rich and massive deficits" thing.

    He left office with record-low approval ratings.

    What makes you think the scam will work any better this time? Most Americans aren't as dumb as you think they are.
     
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    I agree and give President Trump little chance of winning a 3rd term.
     
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    So you're saying Trump plans to allow a terrorist attack to succeed and start a war to keep power?
     
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    Can you explain how a community organizer got elected ?
     
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    Of course, then people go and post like this and we swing back to “people ARE as dumb as you think they are.”

    :)
     
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    Yea, and Hilary was going to win in 2016.
     
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    Already have.
     
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    These guys say the gap has evaporated:

    "In a look ahead to 2018, Democrats currently hold a negligible edge on the generic Congress ballot. If the election for House of Representatives were held today, 47% of registered voters say they would vote for or lean toward voting for the Democratic candidate in their district compared to 45% who would support the Republican. This marks a dramatic shift from last month, when Democrats held a 15 point advantage on the generic ballot (51% to 36%)."

    https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/MonmouthPoll_US_013118/
     
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    See Post #23, then go away.
     
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    From your link:

    The public is split over feeling optimistic (50%) versus pessimistic (45%) about the policies Trump will pursue in the next few years. This result has not changed much from a Monmouth poll taken just before Trump took office in January 2017 when 50% were optimistic and 43% were pessimistic. Currently, 37% say the country is going in the right direction, which is up from 24% who said the same in December. Still, a majority (57%) say the country is headed down the wrong track, compared to 66% in last month's poll. Only 21% of Americans approve of the job Congress is doing and 68% disapprove.

    While Trump's job rating has returned to where it stood last August, the percentage of the public who solidly support the president has slipped while steadfast opposition has held steady.
    Specifically, among those who approve of Donald Trump's job performance, 50% say they cannot foresee the president doing anything to make them feel negatively about him - which is down from 61% of approvers last August who said their support would never waver. On the other hand, 60% of those who disapprove of Trump say the president could not do anything to soften their opinion about him, which is similar to the 57% of this group who said the same in August. Taken together, just 21% of the American public offer Trump their steadfast approval compared to a larger number (30%) who stand firm in their disapproval of Trump. This marks a change from August when a slightly higher 25% of the public expressed unwavering approval of the president and 28% offered resolute disapproval.
     

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