Seriously? Lol .... So Canada, Japan, Australia, New Zeeland, the ASEAN states, Switzerland, Norway and many others are in reverse stupid because they have agreements with the EU?
They're no United States of America, you forget yourself and forget who runs the world. Like Hell would anyone let it be the EU. Become a country or ****.
The worst being suggested as the outcome of todays votes - nothing gets a majority which will have May celebrating and bringing back her unacceptable deal for the 4th time telling everyone they are responsible for No Deal if they do not support it and she will resign if they do which will allow the New Tory Leader to sneakily bring in No deal anyway. Better possibility. An agreement on a custom union resulting in the end of May and the Tory Party split - and that is split - the end of the Tories as we know them.... mind you the left of that split would unite with the right/Blairites of the Labour Party.
If UK enters into a customs union with the EU, it can kiss expanding the markets outside of the EU goodbye. Other deals depend on not being tied down to EU regulations and customs.
No Deal would be ideal. May's deal includes a customs union. 2nd Referendum loses democracy. General Election risks Corbyn Any half in half out deal would kill any new deals.
People voted to leave, they didn't vote to stay in a customs union, it was quite simple; Leave the EU or Remain. Sure, cherry picking and having these things outside of the EU, is fine, but inside the EU, no good. It seems the EU have put the UK into this position by insisting to a country who does follow the rules that it cannot negotiate any new deals until they've worked out how they're going to leave. Now people are scared, forgetting about the world, focusing on the EU. Ireland can Irexit if it wants, what Ireland do, is up to Ireland, and what Northern Ireland do is up to Northern Ireland given the UK voted to leave and any backstop on the island of Ireland denies Northern Ireland a meaningful Brexit and cuts up the UK which they don't want more than Jeremy Corbyn because of his links to the IRA.
Well this is only what is to be expected at Westminster Forgiven now I know who they are. and Labour has apparently at last decided what it will stand by and that is same link
Extinction Rebellion explain their protest as above at 18.15 https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ps-prepare-for-more-indicative-votes-live-new
And they think with the clowns that are in charge of their country, they could get a descent deal with the US, Japan and China. They can't even get something as simple as a Brexit done right, not even a hard Brexit. Every 3rd world country will roll them over the barrel, with a "fair" trade deal, once they have stopped laughing at the clowns showing up. When they talk to the US, they will be standing at the Wall Mart parking lot with a cardboard sign " Any thing Helps ".
It's funny how you think just because the UK is bound to leave the EU it'll be weaker. Based on what, the glowing success of the EU? You do realise the UK has a strong economy. Seems Germany only understand domination and think trade deals are about one party dominating the other.
That Island of yours has only a strong economy, because of the EU. It joint the EU because it was the Sick Man of Europe and because of the success of the EU it became rich. The only good thing that came out of pre EU UK was Rock, everything else sucked, big time. That's were you are heading to, with a government body and political system completely destroyed and unfunctional. And you want to sit down with the US and Japan and China, to talk trade? I have the feeling that you are a troll, because if you would think, pragmatic, you would see it. Are you just trolling for reactions ?
The EU isn't why UK's got a strong economy. Spain has paved roads because the UK's strong economy paid for them. Germany however bailed out Greece which broke Article 125 of the Lisbon Treaty because Greece defaulted and Germany told Greece what to do with the EU. Maybe there should have been a Grexit, but now there's a Brexit, enjoy.
Amen. There's been many times I've thanked God for everything in my City of Westminster Soho bubble right when I was younger (the other year). It was ****ing awesome, and I mean that. This means a lot to me if you know anything about me or where I'm from or what I like to do, thank you. You like Guns N' Roses, they're from Los Angeles, but they had to play in London before they hit big, and, lead guitarist Slash was born here, and, I'm a big GN'R guy right, so that's me, then Jimi Hendrix, my LTD was around the corner from where they recorded Purple Haze in Soho and all the great guitars that I bought on Denmark Street near there too. Gibson Custom Shop Les Paul, Gibson VOS R7 Les Paul, American Fender Deluxe Stratocaster..
It was the most creative time of Rock and it produced the finest of the finest. Nothing compares to it since than. Special and unique. I have no idea who you are and how you were raised and than went of your live of adulthood. But the 70s and 80s were for me some formenting times and as a child of those times, I regret what my generation of freedom has done to the world. We have become the opposite of what we were. We were open, free, any new idea was welcome, we could travel all over the world. Their was no restrictions, just go. Not today, my generation of absolute freedom destroyed it. For me that is the greatest disater
I disagree with you. My reading suggests that the democracy which came about after WW2 and with it a feeling of comradeship with civilians around the world which saw protests against such things as the atrocities which were being committed by the West in Vietnam terrified the authorities or 'deep states' as they have come to be known. From there the neo cons in the US decided that democracy was not an acceptable form of government. They decided that for the US what they wanted was for the people, but not the elite, to become again religious, for them to express their religion politically - and by this control the masses, for the US to become Nationalistic, for them to engage in perpetual wars believing that the people of the US were the good ones and the other the bad and for them, the elite to tell the people 'noble lies' as the people were unable to understand what should be done. They have achieved this to a tee. Neo liberalism also had an inbred political dimension which most people do not realise. It stopped allowing people to have sufficient money so that they had the time to indulge in working for political change, in working to create changes which were for the good of all. That part probably is what people now call 'cultural marxism' but in reality it came from the hearts of people who were sufficiently secure that they had the ability to think for others. 9/11 was the opportunity to completely destroy democracy and get the people of the US into the ethnic nationalism the elite wanted. I do agree about the desire to become psychologically healthy, to build a world which would become ever more humane. However I disagree with who destroyed that vision and turned it into hell. It was a small number of the elite and it was done by taking away the foundations of democracy. Political thinkers having played with us being plutocracies and even living under despotism, now are starting to speak of us having returned to a new form of feudalism.
Oh ... again the evil Germans who dominate and subdue everything, like the whole EU? Again the envy and the disappointment, not to be in the place of Germany in the EU, which breaks through with you?
Your ignorance of the facts are showing. How many times must I repeat (in the same damn forum) that the Electoral College is a manipulation of the popular-vote, which is the only acceptable means of selection of a nation's representatives to a legislature or as chief-executive. No other developed/advanced country on earth has adopted the Electoral College (where the majority winner assumes all the EC-votes) as a means for deciding the country's executive head of government. In fact, those that have recently become "democracies" subsequent to WW2 (in a war largely won by the presence of US-forces) did they consider adopting an Electoral College. Not one! They are all representative democracies with parliaments and not one has an executive head-of-government that is not from the dominant party in its national parliament (Congress). As well, the election process in most other democracies have no "electoral college system". (With the singular exception of France, which allows the government to nominate representatives to its Senate. There are also some countries that allow the Executive Head that is elected separately to nominate a small number of parliamentary members.)
It is amazing how people think that the national leader must address a bad economy because Demand has fallen precipitously and the only way to correct is for government to spend more money. (Most governments are already sufficiently in debt and no more is really needed - besides, who pays the debt bill if not the taxpayer?) I sometimes think that a three-month course in Ec101 should be given to high-schoolers. Such that they learn at least the rudiments of Aggregate Demand. Maybe if they learned early the meaning of Demand Economics* more of them would expect less of government. That might do a world of good - especially to avoid the candidacy of first-class economic know-nothings like Donald Dork ... *Demand is an economic principle referring to a consumer's desire and willingness to pay a price for a specific good or service. Holding all other factors constant, an increase in the price of a good or service will decrease demand, and vice versa.
Ehm ... as much as you are right with your post and what you write here ... sorry ... Unfortunately, it does not change the fact that the Americans ended up leaving only the choice between Hillary and Donald ... the choice between plague or cholera, who will become the next US president.
Well, I disagree with your "plague or cholera", but that is altogether a matter of personal preference. I venture nonetheless that when this present boom busts (and that is likely not too far off) then Americans will finally understand the seriousness of what happened. That is: Their choice of PotUS as determined by the popular-vote was OVERTURNED by the artifice of an Electoral College - and for the fifth time in history as well as the second-time in 20 years. It is amazing that we've put up with the machination of an Electoral College for more than two centuries. Or, for that matter, Gerrymandering the popular-vote that has been around for just as long. No, neither are representative of a Real Democracy. They are both manipulations of the most sacred element of any democracy, which is - for better or for worse - the simple popular-vote of the people ...
And should Russia swallow Poland for breakfast, what should your response be - pray tell. That we negotiate that it go no further? Putin has already grabbed both the Crimea and parts of the Ukraine. He also has Belarus under his thumb. What makes you think he will stop there? He is the architect of a Russia that has shared its basic wealth amongst a handful of oligarchs - of which he claims not to be a member. But only because his share of the booty has gone to his daughter and son-in-law (the latter the son of close personal friend) for good keeping. Let's not get too naive ...
You are very much misreading me. The US system is what it is and one has to run a campaign accordingly. If you run for the popular vote, you miss out at the finer points and loose, as it happened to Clinton. 80,000 and some votes in the rust belt did her in, because she neglected those states. I agree with you that the system in its current form is wrong. The winner takes all, disenfranchises voters, proportional would be more correct or just. The popular vote would give States like California to much power and disenfranchise the less populated farm-belt. You can see this loss of balance in the Western States, were population centers dominate the outcome of elections. Colorado turned solid blue, because of it. I dare to say, that this will happen to Texas and Arizona in the future. The gerrymandering should stop and districts should be according to counties.
And who says and claims that Putin has in mind? Cold War Ghosts are activated again, without any reason! Yes ... Putin has annexed the Crimea and yes, he also intervenes in Ukraine with regard to the Donbass too! But, sorry, so what? He has every reason to be and apart from the fact that he warned us in the West in 2010 not to do what we did after the Maidan and make a clear statement about what happens then - just what happened now - and we laughed at him then and now do not laugh at him anymore ... These are areas that are inhabited mostly by Russians ... Crimea over 60%, Donbass over 80% share ... so that his compatriots are closer to him than any fools in Washington. And he is right! And the same goes for the Baltic States themselves ... or do you think it's great that former Waffen SS members and their fans can walk the streets with Sieg Heil? Will you also come with Syria? Should I refute that with facts? No ... there is no Russian threat ... but Poland basically sees a Russian threat when in Moscow they just fart after dinner! Of course it is also a question of personal preference ... and also of the electoral system, because if someone despite 1.5 million more votes is still the loser, then something is wrong with the system! Nevertheless, the two candidates were in the end, the worst of them all as choice ... hence plague or cholera!
Not to forget ... INF contract: Who had installed Missile Defense System in Poland and Romania for no reason at all ... and told the world that it was against the evil balistic missiles of Iran and North Korea, both of whom had no such missiles at the time? And did Russia have any intermediate missiles, according to INF, at the time that violated the INF? NO! So what do you call the US action in Poland and Romania normally? I call it provocation without any reason!
The only reason Russia is in Syria is because their only direct outlet to the Mediterranean Sea is via a naval port in Tartus. It also happens the Tartus is only 80 kms from the hometown of the al-Asad family in Qardahar - which is why al-Asad allows the Russians usage of the port. Those are my facts ... refute them!
