Boat People Part 2

aw too bad so sad, you must vote for the ALP having such a bitter myopic level of resentment for people who disagree with you.

I posted info that the UNHCR handles refugee's in those countries I listed including settlement within those countries..... you know the reality of what actually occurs on the ground!!! Then you think that because I dont agree with you that those countries are not signatories makes any relevance. For that I get called foolish, LOL @ ian. I'd prefer to discuss what actually happens in the real world and it seems like its you who is parroting the party line.

 

Many people who come by plane illegally are sent back, and sometimes on the next available plane.And others, who also come by plane simply overstay their visa period and eventually leave,as I have explained on this site many times before. You obviously find this extremey difficult to comprehend, or maybe you just simply refuse to understand it because it doesn't fit in neatly with your hollow concept of Laissez-faire entry into Australia.Or maybe you simply like throwing 'red herrings' around.

The two methods of illegal entry into Australia are not mutually exclusive.

 

They don't all leave.

"According to DIMIA, the majority of people who overstay their visa are simply extending a short stay in Australia by a few days or weeks and leave of their own accord. Others overstay in the hope of living and working in Australia."

http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Previousproducts/1301.0Feature%20Article42004?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=1301.0&issue=2004&num=&view=

Entering Australia by boat without a visa, while claiming asylum, is not illegal.

The Migration Act 1958 makes it perfectly legal.

 

Actually they are not. Unless it is discovered they are illegals at the airport, the majority overstay their Visa and 'forget' to go home. There are tens of thousands of plane illegals living and working in this country right now.

 

Are you short of reading skills or are you deliberately misrepresenting my post? Here is what I posted:

'Many people who come by plane illegally are sent back, and sometimes on the next available plane .And others, who also come by plane simply overstay their visa period and eventually leave...'

Are you simply in agreement with my post, but too shy too say so .If you are in agreement just say so.I wont mind.

And anyone who enters Australia without visa should be immediately kicked out. WW11 is long gone and dusted, and so are the genuine refugees who were the victims of that war.And if this requires a change to the law so it can't be manipulated by those looking for a (relatively) luxurious life in the West, then let's change it instead of allowing such stupidity and an ever increasing drain on our welfare system to continue. We have enouigh bludgers in this country without importing more.

 

And many are caught at the airport and immediately sent back and many others are caught working illegally and also sent back.

As I said before, illegalsr who come by boat or plane are not mutually exclusive,. They are all parasites on the groaning Aussie Welfare system. Some for decades!

 

As I said before, boat people seeking asylum (without a visa) are not "illegals".

The Migration Act 1958 makes it perfectly legal.

 

And we don't want any more parasites sucking the blood out of the Aussie Welfare system. We have enough home grown parasites already.

If a law is stupid and outdated, then the solution is very simple.You change it. We don't have to bow and scrape to every silly, obscure demand from some trite UN official

 

That happens from time to time:

"Migration Legislation Amendment Act (No.1) 2008"

http://www.immi.gov.au/legislation/amendments/2008/080919/lc19092008-01.htm

The Migration Act 1958 is actually an Australian Commonwealth Act.

 

It's archaic, just like bell bottom trousers and the penny farthing bicycle, whilst costing the Aussie taxpayer a fortune just to keep 'onside'with the bloated UN officialdom and the emplyoment of a horde of lazy fatcats in Canberra.

Any dill can see it needs immediate scrapping.

 

Is there anything or anyone that you do like?

Seriously?

 

I suggest some people do some reading.

http://www.crr.unsw.edu.au/media/File/Refugees_and_Economic_Contributions.pdf

The legal refugees that come to Australia are well within their rights and are not a burden on Australia at all. Show some compassion for your fellow man.

 

Send these 'pretend' refugees, otherwise well known as Welfare Chasers, back from whence they came, preferably with the assistance of a Wellington Boot.

We are sick of being suckers for every person under the sun, who push aside those ahead of them and crash their way into OZ, so they can suck our welfare system dry!

 

Hey, don't include me in that "we".

I have no problem with asylum seekers who turn out to be legitimate refugees (which is the majority of them).

Unlike you, some of us actually do have compassion for our fellow man (and woman).

 

I have no compassion for those thugs who push and shove their way unto OZ so they can ENDLESSLY suck of our Welfare Teat.

If they wont go home, I suggest we put them in a one rocket to Mars.

 

You paying the fuel bill on that one?

 

It will be a one way rocket to Mars.That should fix it.

 

Read the link I posted. It clearly shows how they are not an economical burden. It also shows how compared to other countries we take a very very small amount of refugees. And from the sounds of it I would much prefer these refugees as fellow countryman over you.

 

The law is an ass, although not as assine as PC lemmings.

 

That's the view of many people, sure. Maybe they need to do some lobbying.

http://www.wordnik.com/words/assine

Couldn't resist.

Yeah, it's not the best game.

 

"Middle class economic immigrants with no ID and no documents who pay people-smugglers" is the latest description of the asylum-seekers landing on our shores.

Hard to argue with that assessment.

Note the ever-increasing number of unaccompanied minors arriving.
Americans call them 'anchor babies'...the anchor for permanent residency 'sympathy for children' and then family reunions in our case.

Nothing will change in Australia until the no-idea Gillard/Rudd/Swan/Wong/Garrett/Smith and co govt is voted out of office.

 

Well isn't that stupid.Probably 'made up' by some self serving ,sanctimonious UN dolt.And our Federal Government has fallen for it .How stupid and irresponsible can a Government be. They believe the the interests of Welfare Shoppers are more important than the Aussie taxpayer. How idiotic and irresponsible is that!

 

No

Australian legislation. Migration Act 1958

They legislated it.

If the Libs get back in late next year, we'll see.

No. They believe the interests of asylum seekers can be dealt with as well as the interests of the Aussie taxpayer. It's not a case of looking after one or the other.

It's not.

 

Even though they financed crimes in reaching here with their cash, broke laws in various countries to get here, propping up an illegal and unregulated people smuggling network which ends up killing people, and also are making the poor refugee's in other countries who are too poor and doing the right thing to wait even longer before being able to come to Australia? They certainly sound like a trustworthy and honest lot of people who will make great ALP voters, but I dont think liars and cheats should be embraced so easily as great potential Australians.

 

An idiotic Government that let's anyone into Australia so they, and their congo line of 'dependents', can endlessly suck off the Aussie Welfare Teat.What a stupid and irresponsible Government has been hoisted upon the Aussie taxpayer!