Bob Mcllvaine victim's father says "official" story BS

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  1. RtWngaFraud

    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    I'm embarassed for him, that your movement causes him to dishonor his son, by parroting your claptrap.
     
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    I see. Someone else causes him to have his opinion. Very good.
     
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    grief makes people succeptable to charlatains...
     
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    I see. I don't understand why he wouldn't simply accept the"official" explanation of everything?? So are you saying the guy is out of his mind? Stupid or what? Please...elaborate.
     
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    He's deluded by the grief of losing his son in such a senseless attack,he'll latch onto anything that explains why his son is dead
     
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    Oh...ok. Anything he has to say, we can just dismiss outright then. UH HUH.
    Another brilliant statement form another "official" BS fable supporter. The guys a whack job. Right?
     
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    Yes i dismiss it,it's not unreasonable to think the thousands of the victims families might have some swayed by the truther hooey
     
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    You might have taken a moment to spell his name correctly.

    Bob McIlvaine has been sucked into 'truther' madness. Poor guy will now never get closure because these fools and their insanity.

    I feel for him and sympathize with his grief, but he's dead wrong.
     
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    He's misinformed.

    As usual, your posts rely on logical fallacy. In this case, an appeal to emotion, wherein you suggest that, merely because this person, who obviously makes a sympathetic figure, has fallen into the cult of 9/11 Denial, that somehow validates or otherwise provides supporting evidence for the various claims 9/11 deniers make.
     
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    Of course he is. Everybody's wrong when it comes to differing with the "official" BS story. The victims, the first responders, the families of the victims, WTC employees...all "mistaken" (according to your team). Very good.

    If I were to offer MORE examples of various victims families claiming shenanigans were in full swing during the "investigation", they would be "mistaken' also. Correct?
     
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    If their feelings aren't supported by facts, the yes they are wrong. Emotion does not supersede reason.
     
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    Do you have me on ignore now? Did you not read my prior post?

    This is an appeal to emotion. It is illogical. Saying, "Sympathetic figure X believes A" does not make "A" true.
     
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    Isn't that exactly the same as your position on anyone who disagrees with your opinion though? Of course people who consider one set of fact to be accurate are going to say that someone stating a different set of facts is wrong. What else do you expect them to say? None of that changes anything though. I don't see the point of raising it.

    Incidentally, do you know if this man of the same opinion today, five years after that article was written?
     
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    No, I do read your posts. I just ignore you manually.
    Nor does it make it "untrue" .
     
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    Would it matter to you and yours? I highly doubt it, so, what's the point of asking?
     
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    Point is he did ask and you,didn't answer
     
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    Not really, but the nature of this whole debate constantly intrigues me. I'm weird that way.

    The point of asking the question was to get an answer. You gave one in a way, one that says nothing about the truth of 9/11 but a lot about how you're approaching it.

    That said, I would still seriously be interested in this man's opinion today.
     
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    The ONE thing the United States could have done to make things better with the victim's families was simply answer their questions.. So they could know the true circumstances of their loved one's death and have closure.

    This is why so many of these loved ones lobbied hard to get an investigation, and finally they got one from a reluctant government.

    Unfortunatiliy, many of their real questions weren't answered, and many viewed the whole thing as a white wash.

    It's inevitable that some loved ones won't accept that packaged "truth" if they feel the writers were avoiding the real meat of the issue, which they were.

    If the official story is all true and everything's above board, why couldn't they answer all the questions?

    It's no surprise that you get people believing alternate stories, even among the loved ones group.. When the best "official" explanation they could come up with was an obvious white wash.
     
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    Strange thing about information and answers. Both are easily obtained without me holding your hand. You want the information, the answer to your question? LOOK. If I answer, you'll come back with something like "well, that's BS, because blah, blah, blah. Your ONLY interest is to discredit me.

    Information. Seek it. You'll find it easily. LOOK. (but then if ordinary people would seek simple answers to easily obtained questions, the 9/11 hoax would already be resolved by now.

    Seriously? LOOK. I know. I know. It's easier for you to mock me if I jump through your hoops. (You've seen one shill, you've seen them all).
     
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    So would I, and I think you asked a very valid question, which was of course treated like a flaming bag of horse crap by the 9/11 deniers.

    As you pointed out, though, the answers both this man and the 9/11 deniers give has no bearing on the truth of what actually happened, but has a lot of bearing on how people approach the topic.

    Well thought out, HonestJoe.
     
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    I wonder if KSM would say the same thing today as he did years ago when they were busy torturing him into talking.
     

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