[Bomshell] Parkland's Emma Gonzalez Admits to Bullying the Shooter. And She’s Not Sorry.

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  1. flewism

    flewism Well-Known Member

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    Would you agree that the Parkland shooter suffered "nothing but demonization" by students at the school?

    This by no means justifies his actions, but to believe he was not is just naïve.
     
  2. raytri

    raytri Well-Known Member

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    So now it's the victims' fault. Nice.

    And also, not so much:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/27/opinion/nikolas-cruz-shooting-florida.html

    So does not providing easy access to weapons of mass murder. Indeed, it's a nice backstop for when the compassion route fails.
     
  3. raytri

    raytri Well-Known Member

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    Really. So you have apparently missed all the articles and bloggers and talking heads calling the kids names, questioning their motives, accusing them (like the OP) of being Commies, or Marxists, or Fascists, or "crisis actors"? The elected representatives comparing them to Hitler Youth? The faked photos of Emma Gonzalez tearing up the Constitution? The fake stories about David Hogg, like the ones questioning whether he was even at school during the shooting? Or the conspiracy theories because his dad is a retired FBI agent?

    I see. So you buy into the conspiracy theories as well. I guess that explains why you can't see the **** the right is spewing at these kids.

    I have no issue with pushing back on his or anyone's claims. But the loudest noise out of the right has been aimed at trying to demonize them: they are dupes of larger "forces"; they are Communists. Etc.

    Not sure who you are arguing with here, since I have never called them untouchable, or suggested that their claims should be accepted uncritically.
     
  4. raytri

    raytri Well-Known Member

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    Not without evidence. Do you have any actual basis for making that claim?

    Avoiding the creepy kid is not "demonization." I have seen no evidence of people being deliberately cruel to Cruz. Indeed, the stories are all about HIM being cruel from a young age.
     
  5. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    FAKE NEWS!!!!

    she never said she bullied anyone
     
  6. Chester_Murphy

    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't help that you can't see the common thread running through all of this. Being ridiculous by saying they cause cancer, MS, GMO, bad breath(which may be true), acid indigestion(which may be true), hurricanes, tornadoes, urban crime(which may be true), and Trump' successful campaign is a bit over the top.

    Your attempt at humor is proof that you should keep your day- job.

    Do some serious investigation and you will find the common thread. If not, I suggest changing your username to mushroom.
     
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  7. Chester_Murphy

    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Even if she did?
     
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    In the video clip linked, it sounds as if she's trying to defend herself against those that say 'they' bullied or ostracized the shooter. She doesn't deny this accusation but excuses it by saying "we didn't know the shooter". In other words, she thinks they were justified.

    If the kid was that bad he should not have been anywhere near a school. It makes you wonder why you don't see kids shoot up private or parochial schools. My guess is because they don't have to tolerate bad behavior. If you act out you're gone.

    The problem was the kid not the gun. We need to address mental health issues with some of these kids not try to ban a tool that they happen to use. There's a reason why people are prosecuted and guns are not.
     
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  9. zbr6

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    No way to answer that since I cant dive into someone else's mind.

    But what we do know about bullying is that it can lead to behavior issues.

    Add to that the fact that Cruz was clearly and undeniably mentally unstable with a history of violent outbursts and you've got a "poke the bear" situation.

    But no I'm not placing full blame on these kids for bullying.

    That blame rests on the FBI and local police that utterly failed to do their jobs.

    Those entities could have stopped this, attacks have been prevented with less to go on and they had a full profile + criminal history + likely intent and still they sat on their asses.

    But as far as that shaved head girl is concerned if shes going to stand there and blame guns, gun owners, Republicans, the NRA, and White people ...well then she has moved beyond the relevant and therefore it is fair fkin game to attack her as well.
     
  10. PARTIZAN1

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    Ha ha ha ha you need to chill out a bit. What you perceive as a "common thread" very well may either not be the case or others may perceive diferrently. If you think that blaming the LGBT community for all of the ills of the world makes sense to you well then good go wallow in your own swamp. My view point is that there are worse groups such as drug pushers, gangs, and Russians who cause real problems.
     
  11. Moonglow

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    What makes her a commie?
     
  12. Moonglow

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    Let's see, I got bullied at home, in the neighborhood, at school, church and in public,,,yet I managed to never kill anyone over it...
     
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  13. PARTIZAN1

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    I did not see any vicious behavior against the kid who snapped of was in the process of snapping. You do realize that Trump fans, Trump, and the KKK exhibited somevelemebts of fascist behavior.
     
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    Oh stop the one sided sanctimonious stance both sides engage in name calling. My point was that pro gun groups are losing support by attacking kids.

    Of corse I read retired Justice Steven's op ed. He flat out chalks fir repeal. So he is wrong and naive and that will never happen.

    There is a big difference between repeal and background checks. The firmer is "gun grabbing" the later is a restriction.
     
  15. drluggit

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    Not looking perhaps is a strategy, no? And, no. No, I do not. I usually associate the KKK with liberals because they are the presentation of the plantation liberals are all about. I doubt that any liberals are much of Trump fans these days. Similarly, I don't see the President being a fascist. Perhaps you could provide an example or two. I'll wait.
     
  16. PARTIZAN1

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    If you are associating liberals with the KKK you are either making up the biggest pile of bovine excrement the known to man or you totally are not able to think honestly or rationally. I did not say that Trump is a facist but he as others have used tactics that some call facist. I do not even care to bother asking you about what the hell are "plantation liberals" but I am sure that it is some MUS or some distorted presentation of reality.
     
  17. Daniel Light

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    And once again we see that NRA supporters have resorted to lying about these kids. She said that they STAYED away from the future shooter because his actions scared them. NOT that they bullied him.

    I support the right to own guns, but there are some dicks in the NRA who are hell bent as portraying the entire organization as mindless idiots by continuing to post these moronic hit pieces on the kids from this school.
     
  18. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I know, let's ask someone who actually knows what they're talking about.

    http://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/research/2011/110510WilliamsOstracism.html

    "Being excluded or ostracized is an invisible form of bullying that doesn't leave bruises, and therefore we often underestimate its impact," said Kipling D. Williams, a professor of psychological sciences. "Being excluded by high school friends, office colleagues, or even spouses or family members can be excruciating. And because ostracism is experienced in three stages, the life of those painful feelings can be extended for the long term. People and clinicians need to be aware of this so they can avoid depression or other negative experiences."
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And that fascist behavior would be what? I like how you put the KKK in there with being synonymous with being a Trump supporter though.
     
  20. PARTIZAN1

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    By the definition of that professor anyone who is a convicted sexual affender on the offender list can claim he is being bullied because he is ostracized. Therefore being ostracized should not be considered a form of bullying.
     
  21. PARTIZAN1

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    Attacking groups of people of professions such as Trump does with the Mecca by calling them "enemies of the people" is a real example of facist behavior. Trump's fans cheer that on so his fans cheer thatvelements of facism.
     
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  22. Chester_Murphy

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    Let me refer you, once again, to this post:
     
  23. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    What is the matter you lack the intellect or the balks to argue your position honestly so you resort to insults?
     
  24. JakeStarkey

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    Emma G. makes sense, the alt right vicious opponents simply fail.
     
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    Mecca is a profession? I have no idea what you're talking about.
     

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