Boom! National Poll: Trump Leading 67% To Hillary’s 19% Of 50,000 Voters

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Dude he was operating in the city of New York in the early part of his career where that was the only way to get anything done. You see if you are going to be successful in a corrupt system you either go with the flow or you sleep with the fishes. And let's not forget New York has a history of corruption going back very nearly to the beginnings of the country, and for the most part it has been Democratic Party corruption. They got rid og Boss Tweed thanks in no small part to Thomas Nast but all that did was change the guy that got the Payola.

    Further there is immensely more at stake than Roe V wade, the second amendment and Citizens United. If that was all it was SCOTUS wouldn't be much of an issue for me wither. If Hillary gets elected any and all chances to reign in bureaucratic overreach dies with her election at least for another 3 or 4 decades.
     
  2. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    Can't you say the exact same thing about hillary though?

    How, specifically, would you try to reign in bureaucratic overreach? Hasnt there been opportunities to do that before, and yet nothing was done?
     
  3. 3link

    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I honestly believe he intends to make America great again. I just don't think he has the means to do it. He's just an intellectual midget compared to Hillary.
     
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    Hitler would love Trump. Two sides of the same coin.
     
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    Getting our jobs back from China and following the rule of law will make us great again.

    What does Hilary have to offer?

    THe reason I am against Hilary is because she is politically correct and doesn't like me and what I stand for. Plus she is not a good person as evidenced by her private emails and security staff and the people who know her. Nobody in her circle really has anything nice to say about her.

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    THat is just illogical fearmongering.
     
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    Don't you think Hillary cares about America....
     
  7. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Can't be sure, but those were the only signs near me. I don't see any around. Saw a sticker on a car, though. Probably a mistake the driver can't undo so easily.
     
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    My definition of violence includes people, you know, actually being hurt. Also, the democratic offices of that city were also vandalized that same night.
     
  9. garyd

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    Or he could be gutsier than some after the the fire bombing of a Republican headquarters I suspect a lot people took their signs down not because they'd changed their minds on who to vote for but because they were concerned about getting their house burned down.
     
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    Well, considering that only on such incident occurred nationwide and that one hasn't been even confirmed as to who did it, I say it is much more likely to burn the house down by forgetting to turn the stove off.

    In any case, now that we are into stereotyping, I thought the typical Trump supporter would wait in their house all day and night with the shotgun loaded so they can make use of their 2nd amendment right when someone trespasses to steal their Trump sign (tongue in cheek emphasized).
     
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    While that is almost certainly true there is also the fact that there is no reason to take chances one doesn't have to.
     
  12. Durandal

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    Except the signs that went down weren't in front of houses. They went down soon after the revelation of Donald's sex crimes.
     
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    A popular consensus is always necessary when dealing with war. Look at the law's of the United States - the President has to get permission before activating armed forces, so should any revolution be popular and condoned with the people.
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not all American citizens were in agreement with the Revolution of 1776, nor did they fight against the British. In fact some Americans actual fought against their fellow citizens they considered themselves British 'Subjects'. I believe the term used beside Loyalist was Tories, Royalists. When the American revolution was won and over, about 15% of the Loyalists (65,000–70,000 people) fled to other parts of the British Empire, to Britain itself, or to what is now Canada (British North America). Even after the Civil War thousands of loyal Southerners moved to Mexico and South America a small number even made it to Australia.
     
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    So do I but the liberals keep coming up with new ways to tax my paycheck.

    Including my property tax bill. Like former NY gov Paterson allowing the MTA to attach itself onto everyone's NY property tax bill..
     
  16. Starshine

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    And all of that happened while the continental Congress with Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and company supported a solid common ideal of Liberty and Justice for All. Americans in the world today are quite divided.
     
  17. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The fact is that America was divided then just as it is today with different factions and ideologies vying for supremacy. Those that longed to be free of intrusive government and those that accepted the status quo. Benjamin Franklin defined it well:

    "The deliberations of the Constitutional Convention of 1787 were held in strict secrecy. Consequently, anxious citizens gathered outside Independence Hall when the proceedings ended in order to learn what had been produced behind closed doors. The answer was provided immediately. A Mrs. Powel of Philadelphia asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?” With no hesitation whatsoever, Franklin responded, “A republic, if you can keep it.” -- (Benjamin Franklin)

    Democrats have fought tooth and nail shedding a lot of blood to destroy this REPUBLIC since the 1860's and Hillary is leading the charge right now. Now Progressives have gone global with Libya, Syria, Iraq. Who is next on the list.
     
  18. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Really? Did Obama ask permission to bomb Libya and Syria? Did Congress give Hillary the go ahead to furnish financing and weapons to al Qaeda groups?
     
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    You have to hand it to the republican marketing machine, they are great at getting people to vote against their interests.
     
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    As you are apparently an open advocate of racism, most Americans, including conservatives, are not going to endorse your values OR your opinions.
     
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    Again its wrong to embrace left wing ideas because Hitler was evil. Hitler had nothing to do with racism.

    Its white supremacy or bust.
     
  22. thinkitout

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    "Let's blow the liberals out of the water!". . . . An impartial poll? . . . With the narrator wearing a mask? . . . Do you think that even gullible Trump groupies are so naïve as to believe that such a poll, apparently anonymous, even was conducted?

    You are always so anxious to report "breaking news" that you don't bother to verify your material, and it is invariably subsequently refuted. Also, if you have to fool people to gain allies, your cause must not be just.
     
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    Liberal values, such as in the enlightenment and classic liberals? Which is the founding fathers. Or do you mean modern liberal values which is a mask for international global socialism or communism for short?

    The former which is real liberty and guess which group more closely follows their values. The small govt, gun loving, anti govt power/ corruption, sovereign state people that promote individual freedom and liberty or those that push globalism, open borders, endless welfare for anyone who wonders in (taking from productive to people to give to non productive people - forced wealth redistribution!), collectivist laws for the victim classes they promote, who demonize the founding fathers and any other 'old white guys' like them....i could go on.

    So we know the founding fathers were real liberals approved of owning guns right and were pro revolution if necessary, small govt and promoted the individual NOT the collective! Its amazing to me how collectivists try to usurp everything.

    GET this straight..........there is NOTHING liberal about the left.

    Jefferson -

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
    "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
    "A little rebellion now and then is a good thing and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical."

    Wow he sounds like a Trump supporter

    Immigration cant wait, this is the end game because of immigration. No one of real liberal values (as above) will EVER win again, even the RINO types will have NO chance EVER. What govt power, then only those who promise the most free stuff will stand a chance. It becomes a race to the left - that is GAME OVER for liberty. Ever hear the left say we need more republicans in the media or in schools for diversity of thought? NO - thats because they dont care about diversity, they only care about collectivizing power and low skilled, low IQ people from socialist favoring cultures are the perfect tool.

    Given an hour was too long to save the world from certain tyranny and washing away real liberty forever hence the West will be gone, then maybe try this one 27 minutes. And if even thats too long for you go to the 12min mark about the Podesta emails and ask yourself -------

    Why does he admit Democrats conspire to produce an UNWARE and COMPLAINT citizenry?

    Pssttt here a clue........another Jefferson quote

    "Whenever people are well-informed they can be trusted with their own government."


    [video=youtube;dtRj6x1jHuU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtRj6x1jHuU[/video]
     
  24. AlphaOmega

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    Politics aside, thanks for being cooperative on this. I will be more cooperative with you as well from this point forward.
     
  25. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    I especially liked this part:

    I watched the event live, so, no one from the media had to "tell" me what happened.

    Trump was booed and catcalled several times. One man even shouted "finish".

    Trump was booed. "Their big headline" is accurate.
     

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