Botulism Outbreaks

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  1. waltky

    waltky Well-Known Member

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    Hey, dat's nacho cheese!...
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    California botulism outbreak linked to petrol station's nacho cheese
    Sat, 20 May 2017 - An outbreak of botulism in California is linked to cheese sauce from a family-run petrol station.
     
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    @waltky you are on the same 2 forums as I am.

    I saw this thread by you on the other forum too.
     
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    Bad news - I have seen a case of botulinum and it is not pretty. We bloody near had to fly him around the country to get the antitoxin because it is so rare that we only keep it in a couple of places
     
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    Normally it kills its victims.

    I'm surprised these people survived.
     
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    The article says something about a lawsuit against the gas station convenience store.

    They are no way at fault.

    The fault is at the cannery not the convenience store.

    Botulism is sometimes not noticeable in any can.
     
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    If you get them in time - it causes neuromuscular blockade which is what kills people. We keep some in an national stockpile

    The guy that got it was a farmer and his cattle had been affected from drinking contaminated water - he had washed his face in the trough
     
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    I love your stories !!
     
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    Thank-you

    Spent most of my adult life working life in ICUI have seen conditions others have only read about and if you think I am gung-ho on climate change do NOT cross me on vaccines :p
     
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    The only thing better than gas station nachos is gas station sushi.
     
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    Was it bought in a container that was sealed or was it set out by the gas station?
     
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    My sister did her tour of duty in the ICU too. Said she hated it.

    Then they moved her to eye surgery and that is ok with her.
     
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    Yup no kidding huh ?! What were these people thinking ??

    The only thing I every buy at the gas station convenience stores is potato chips and a coke.
     
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    Tol' ya dat's nacho cheese...
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    Botulism outbreak: Man sickened by nacho cheese dies
    Wednesday 24th May, 2017 — One of at least 10 people apparently sickened by nacho-cheese dip sold at a California gas station has died, health officials said Monday.
     
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    I have been wondering about botulism lately. I have been canning all day and probably tomorrow too. I bought a pressure canner and I am following directions. I read that if you boil your food it will kill the bacteria and neutralize the poison but it won't kill the spores....but when in doubt... throw it out. And they say not to feed infants honey under a year old. I don't really like nachos.
     
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    Anyone against vaccines or vaccination is an idiot. IMHO.
     
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    You can basically get it from nearly any food if the conditions are right
     
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    When canning there is a better chance of getting the toxin from low acid foods. That's when pressure canning comes in. The pressure canner heats the food hot enough to kill the bacterial spores.
     
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    I am surprised that the subject of listeria and food contamination is not discussed more often. Sadly, we wait until there is an outbreak of food poisoning before people discuss ways of preventing such illness.

    So why question to you is, what steps do you take to prevent food contamination?


    Here's what I do: when buying chicken (for example), I cut the skin out, soak the chicken in a combination of vinegar and water, and then rinse. Then repeat. I do the same with other types of meat.

    Be very sure to wash off the utensils and cutting board thoroughly. Same with your hands.

    Please give other suggestions.
     

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