BRAKING NEWS: 60 Russian TANKS in 30 kilometer from Mariupol/WW3?

BRAKING NEWS: 60 Russian TANKS in 30 kilometer from Mariupol/WW3?
&HITT ...what does it mean, THE WAR?
http://www.unian.net/politics/956683-rossiyskie-tanki-uje-pod-mariupolem-smi.html
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http://www.ipukr.com/?p=14830 Russian army attacks platoon donbas

 

Why would this mean WW3? Nobody will seriously engage Russia beyond sanctions and Ukraine was already influenced to give up their nuclear deterrent.

I might be wrong, but its highly unlikely any military aid will come to Ukraine.

 

Litwin those tanks belong to the Novorussiya militia. Do you really think Russia would invade with such as small force when they could take over the whole country in three days? The tanks were probably captured from the Ukrainians. You might be right though about war, because someone in the militia said that they are going to continue to Odessa and that is going to freak out the criminal oligarch Kolomoisky, who owns the Southwest of Ukraine. But boy his army of mercenaries are the most ruthless and have committed the most atrocities so I would like to see them get their just reward.

 

Well the onus is most certainly on you to prove that's the case isn't it. I wonder where this civilian 'milita' suddenly acquired not just the tanks but the trained crews to man them ?

If that happens I can only hope the West sails a carrier battle group in there but I know it won't. Ukrainian sovereignty and right to self determination is going to be crushed under the Russian jackboot. And all because they might have upset Russia by perhaps joining the EU or NATO. They have only had their freedom now for 23 years too. What a tragedy for its people.

 

Crimea = Sudety/Austria

 

its paid propaganda and you a paid troll. we have seen your XXXXX flashing off so many times already http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_green_men_(GRU)

 

dont worry Mr Obama has a plan..he is going to shot golf balls at them....fore

 

It's pretty impressive that the rebels have been able to gather and organize this many tanks. It's hard to tell if they're from Russia or Ukrainian defectors. I'm unsurprised that the impressions of imminent victory projected by western media were false.

 

So where's the proof. Your always dancing the west provide proof for everything they say but you never provide any whatsoever so prove where those tanks come from.

 

if he can deadly hit Putler´s forehead why not?

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Well here at last is some definitive proof of their identity from a qualified defense analyst

Joseph Dempsey, an analyst with the International Institute for Strategic Studies, told the BBC that one of the tanks is something called a T-72BM, a modern variant identifiable by its special "Kontakt-5 Explosive Reactive" armor, and one that Russia has not exported but uses heavily in its own military. That is a new development, and one that suggests not just that Russia is invading, but being increasingly brazen about it.

Dempsey told the BBC, "The Soviet-era tanks operated by the separatists have until now represented those that could have been potentially acquired internally within Ukraine, providing a degree of plausible deniability to any suspected third-party supplier." That degree of plausible deniability is now gone.

http://www.vox.com/2014/8/28/6078831/video-russian-tanks-eastern-ukraine

Now just wait for the Kremlin posterbots to close ranks on this rather embarrassing revelation.

 

some? many , i´d say too many ,,,

 

[video=youtube;CJm5bjM3Z5c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CJm5bjM3Z5c[/video]

 

Yeah I brought up that exact same thing in another thread and they just dodged around it. Asked them why they wouldn't answer about it and they never replied.

 

BS, from BBC? or from a UFO forum?

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meanwhile in Donetsk under Moscovite occupation

 

[video=youtube;RvaW9iGmQM4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvaW9iGmQM4[/video]

Too late, we are already in Kiev.

That (*)(*)(*)(*)hole Vilnus is next.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontakt-5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T-80#Ukrainian_T-80UD

300 T-80UD where at a Ukrainian factory when Soviet Union dissolved. That ERA comes standard on those. Some additional ERA's may have been in storage for future production. I don't see any reason why Ukrainians could not have fitted it on their T-72's using spare ERA kits, or kits taken off T-80UD that got disabled.

Now granted this is from 2 minute goggling, but seems like a possibility.

Edit: Never mind I misread the article, Ukrainian T-84 had ERA not T-80. But still It's possible to retrofit older tanks with additional protection is it not?

 

ERA (explosive reactive armor) tiles & steel grills can be bolted onto the tank's hull & turret to deflect incoming RPG & sabbot rounds but the tank chassis/drive train/transmission is only designed to handle so much weight & the more weight you add the more frequent breakdowns will occur.

 

Its already been proven that the US was behind the over throw of the gov in Kiev by Nulands own leaked phone cal. It is completely irrelevant whether Russia is there or not. They would have every right to protect the Eastern Ukrainian people.
"There is enough proof about who caused the 22 February 2014 coup (Maidan) – Madame Nuland, Kerry’s assistant, bragged about it at the Washington Press club – remember the US$ 5 billion investment in Ukraine’s regime change that cannot be let go down the drain because of the f….ing Europeans. She was caught hot-handed or hot-voiced on the phone with the US Ambassador in Kiev.

Ever since that infamous coup, the US / NATO and the EU have had their dirty hands in Kiev's Nazi killer junta - otherwise the Kiev thugs would have never had either the courage or the military knowledge to advance to the Donbas area of Ukraine, where they were literally ordered to kill their brothers. Some of them with some conscience defected early on; then they were accompanied under threats of life by CIA ‘advisers’. Eventually they defected by the thousands because of lack of food and ammunition and the resulting low-low morale.

It is actually irrelevant whether Russia has troops and armory in East Ukraine. In fact it would be well justified for Russia to defend her countrymen from savage slaughter, as many Donbas citizens are originally Russians. But - they don't, as Mr. Putin is too smart to spoil his diplomatic assets on a war that is already lost by Kiev.

Be this as it may, why do we, truth seekers, at a time of Obama’s lie exclamations and countless media repetitions not present more frequently the US / NATO invasion in Ukraine and their assistance to the Kiev murderers, rather than always being on the defensive, undoing lies in defense of Russia?

The truth of what the US-NATO killing machine, its vassal EU states and its paid mercenaries are up to in Ukraine, and that they won’t let go regardless of what Obama mutters to tranquilize the world --- the truth is in one way or another Washington is committed to its financial and corporate elite to achieve Full Spectrum Dominance, meaning complete subjugation of the world to Washington’s masters, the military-security industrial complex and the war financing monetary system – FED-Wall Street-IMF, the latter being a mere extension of the US Treasury. "
Vineyard Saker.
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/

 

Go Russia! Its about time. The Nazis need defeated completely.

 

The usage of the "Nazi threat" is simply empty rhetoric. I cannot see al these Nazis around in Ukraine.

About the tanks, I'm nor surprised neither amazed. We are competing and Moscow is showing muscles, like Putin loves to show his own muscles ... But pay attention that so far NATO has used only paper. The party is still to come.

 

So far Putin has only been showing his muscles - not using them. Perhaps this is designed to wake up the nut jobs in NATO & Washington befor they start a nuclear war.

 

It's a way to communicate. Putin's keeping a clear advantage of move after having conceded the advantage of position to EU [he had to illude Frau Merkel].
He doesn't want war, he's doing something similar to what Americans did in case of the crisis at Cuba, but this time the advantage is on Russian side.

 

I don't think Russia is trying to show "muscle" or they wouldn't have asked the peoples militia in the southeast to allow for a safe passage out for the junta Nazi soldiers traitors.