Braking News : Putin sent tanks deep into Ukrainian territory

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  1. litwin

    litwin Well-Known Member

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    LOL, RPC (much like millions Russians) did not cooperate with Germans ? and Russian women did gave their love to Hungarian solders ? you live in the RuSSkie propaganda want to use U-word, but i kind of like you lets say - TV station
     
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    Why do you think anyone is my hero?
    Because I try to look at all sides of a story, not just accept the propaganda, doesn't mean I support any given person or group.
    On other forums, I've been accused of being a pro Obama left winger because I refuse to accept the birth certificate story, an extreme right winger because I post stories that show the truth of left wing stupidity and an extremist Muslim terrorist supporter, because I refuse to believe the bull stories about Boko Haram and other such groups. That lot do plenty of rubbish without having to make things up.
    Same goes for North Korea. I'm commonly accused of being a communist because I don't believe Kim had his girlfriend murdered in front of her family. My position was proven to be correct when she appeared on live TV a few weeks ago.
    That doesn't make me a communist, just not so stupid as to believe any old poo put in front of me.

    Same goes here.
    Try not to post stupidity - it makes you look daft.
     
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    Indofred Banned at Members Request

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    I'm pretty sure they had a referendum in Crimea, not an invasion.
    There was no referendum in Ukraine when the American assisted coup removed the democratically elected government.
    America has done this in many countries, including Iran.
    Perhaps you can explain why it's fine to remove elected governments but isn't okay to hold a democratic referendum.
     
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    Well, I have not accused you of all that so I am certainly not responsible for whatever it is you are talking about in your post... Here is my accusation though, you are anti-western to your core, there has not been a single event in the world in which you would not take the side opposing the West....and the situation in Ukraine is no exception, the west opposes Russia's aggression and annexation so your knee-jerk reaction is to take Putin's side. All this talk about looking at all sides of a story is nothing more than cheap rhetoric given that the outcome is inevitable, you always jump to the defence of whatever anti-western scumbag dictator or sh*thole country being discussed.

    Rest assured that you are not alone, there is quite a number of posters who basically wait for the US/Europe/Israel to take a position on an issue and immediately just to the support of the opposing side, no matter what the issue is.
     
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    lol!!!

    tell that to Japan, Turkey, Palestine, Syria, Libya, Egypt, The Phillipines, China, Korea, and Hawaii.
     
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    lol!!!!!! that's not how democracy works, buddy.
     
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    There goes one accusation. Sorry, pal, if you intend to accuse someone of something, don't deny it in the same thread - you'll look like an idiot.

    Anti western?
    There goes another daft accusation.
    I'm anti lie, anti propaganda and anti invading countries for oil, arms sales, stupid political ideals and, in the case of Tony Blair, for personal profit.
    I happen to disagree with many eastern countries as well.
    I dislike Saudi's attitude to many things, especially treatment of women.
    I'm no fan of that idiot in North Korea.
    I'm hardly in the ranks of the stupid Islamic extremists either.

    Quite how does that make me anti western - except in the eyes of fools?
     
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    just switch words ethnic Germans to ethnic Russians
     
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    "majority matters." not always what about the illegal settlements?
    who asked the majority (GRU and Goblin´s gang) did they (GRU and Goblin,) had a right to ask anyone in Ukraine ?if yeas, according which Ukrainian law?
     
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    I see you're anti Eastern.
    Anyone can post a silly picture.

    Bush_Hitler.jpg

    Bush-Hitler-762835.JPG

    Gosh, Bush must be Hitler.
     
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    Anyway, back to real posts.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/14/w...ll-control-of-port-city-of-mariupol.html?_r=0

    Hang on, they've destroyed two of the three, ignoring the fourth in their photo, and destroyed support vehicles that also aren't in the photo.
    Of course, you have to look at the unedited photo to see they aren't there.

    What's that smell? I'm unsure but there are boy cows over there, and they've been eating a lot.
     
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    This suggests Russia is supplying weapons to their own people.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27849437

    The Americans are very upset by this news, even though they only think Russia supplied the tanks, but can't prove it.

    America sends other military stuff to the Ukraine, and we have all the admissions we need, so no evidence required.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...064d80-c649-11e3-9f37-7ce307c56815_story.html

    Military supplies are military supplies - no need to complain if you do it yourself.
     
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    Americans will be more and more upset by the news in future, and they should blame for that their own government.

    MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
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    you`d pay more attention to my posts and less to your UFO friends here

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Crimea-puppet-master-Putin.html#ixzz34kXPrdmA
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    Every Tom, Dick and Harry with an agenda compares whoever to Hitler.
    Many Arabs do it with Jews, as many Jews do with Arabs.

    It means bugger all.
     
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    Monday morning starts with a rofl - thanks.
     
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    litwin Well-Known Member

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    whats about Janusz, Kochan, Ales´, Taras, etc?
     
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    As each side tries zu get the other in these NAZI comparitions maybe some fact checking of significant historical german nazi-specificas:
    The two most significant:- 12 jears whole planning set on a war with millions dead
    - systematical killing of a named people
    The lower significant:- got to power helped by old military elites of german imperium an people dreaming of old "better" times" and promised the to put back the nation at its place
    - inner political main ennemies. socialdemocrat, liberal and republican politicians (kommunists too, but main speeches Hitlers were against "Erfülllungspolitiker von Versailles")
    - personally: Personal identification with A.H.
    - economical: getting economy cut off from foreign trade.
    - foreign policy (1): getting out of multinational organisations
    - foreign policy (2): making treaties to hold or not as in national interest (PL 1934; GB 1935; GB-F-I 1938; SU 1939)
    - national policy (3): destabilisating neighbour countries with german nationality/Sympatisats (A; CZ; PL; LIT)
    - war policy: war not only to conquer area, but to kill the population, no collaboration (east).
    So with these 10 statement lets check Ukrainian an Russian positions:
    - world war: none
    - systematical killing: none
    - got to power by disappointed people/elites...: Ukraine, Russia
    - liberal innerpolitical enemies: Russia
    - personal identification: Russia
    - economy: none, slight tendeces Russia
    - foreign policy (1): none, slight tendencies Russia
    - foreign policy (2): Russia (Budapest 1994, Crimea)
    - national policy (3): Massive Russia (Ukraine, Georgia, Baltic)
    - war policy: none
    So especially because of the missing of the first two points I would see no significant simmilarities to the former german NAZIS on both sides. Slight tendencies of fascist (for me the "not so overwealming criminal" Version) behavior I see on the russian side especially seeing themselves "superior" to thier neighbours. That may always be a little dangerous. And this is my honest opinion as a german ...
     
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    great post ...
     

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