BREAKING: Car plows into dozens of protesters at far-right rally, extremely serious injuries

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  1. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I own a book on Fascism. I have no clue how Democrats link it to what the nazis did. I think it pleases them since historically it is just wrong. They are close to Communists so naturally they hated Hitler.
     
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    The cont left immediately blamed Hillary's devastating defeat and The Don's glorious victory on white people, whitelash, etc. Take your medicine like a big boy.
     
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    3link Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's an alternative theory. What if these leftists you describe simply don't believe in an immigration policy that discriminates against people who are not white? Is that the same as wanting to make whites minorities in their own country?
     
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    Examples please.
     
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    because the resist movement never lets up.
     
  6. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Supposedly I had a post deleted (didn't actually confirm it) about details of the driver which I got from other public websites. Not sure why that's happening. Perhaps someone will explain. Usually they put MOD warnings on the thread's title to give us a heads up.
     
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    In one of Hitler speeches he admits to being a socialist and the only reason he hated communism not because of its philosophy but because they were his opposing political party as a matter of fact he quoted Marx often
     
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    Picture of the car used in the attack.

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    Nuanced view from a Right-Winger:

    1.) Violence should be condemned when it's committed by BOTH sides, this includes Antifa and fellow travelers. This shouldn't have to be said but it needs to be said.

    2.) Richard Spencer and other organizers of this rally are complete idiots. Why? Because even at a tactical and strategic level any person with common sense could see that this event was going to do more harm to their own side than good. Cosplaying like it's the 1920s and 30s with the torch light marches in defense of Confederate monuments is nothing more than political masturbation. This doesn't gain allies, it doesn't unite the Right, it doesn't advance any worthwhile goals, it's only about capturing some superficial feeling of faux-strength; fundamentally it is solely about self-gratification.

    3.) An event like this is a complete disaster in the ongoing free speech war. Even though there was violence committed by both Left and Right today, the media will obviously hone in on what the Right did (like the idiot with the car which should rightly be condemned as a cowardly and disgusting attack) and this will be used as justification for further restrictions on free speech. "We don't want another Charlottesville!" will be the excuse that every Right-of-center figure is given as to why they can't speak on a campus, in a public place, etc. The First Amendment, in practice, doesn't matter to the mayors and governors who prioritize their cities' and states' well-being over following the law.

    You could not have scripted a worse outcome for the Alt-Right. Not just the Alt-Right but anyone Right of the aisle who will get associated with this and any centrist who still wants to uphold the traditionally broad definition of free speech.
     
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    It's not a dumb analogy. We brought a culture, a legal system, a religion, and a demographic. Calling it a "dumb analogy" isn't a reason for white people to give away their heritage.


    It is. Naturalization was limited to free whites and we had a white-only immigration policy until 1965 to preserve the cultural and ethnic character of this country and there is nothing wrong with that.


    Why is it "bigoted" and why do liberals always argue in labels like that? What is WRONG with it? You're not saying.


    Not at all. Would you tell Muslims they don't have a right to the Middle East, North Africa, and East Asia? They migrated there and are not natives.

    You see it all the time. "White privilege," etc. Whose identities besides white folks are these neo-Marxist academics bashing as "artificial constructs" and whose cultures besides white folks are being called "institutionally racist"?


    Bashing the identity of a group means offspring of that group are less likely to have warm feelings toward their heritage and thus aren't as likely to cherish and propagate it. Combine that with open borders and third world mass immigration and eventual demographic displacement and that's exactly what is coming.
     
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    I had no ancestors slaughtering Jews. I must assume that your ancestors slaughtered Ukrainians in the Great Famine.
     
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    you think the Nazis were not Fascists?

    LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    in practicality, yes.

    starting with the immigration act of 1965:

    The 1965 Act marked a change from past U.S. policy which had discriminated against non-northern Europeans. In removing racial and national barriers the Act would significantly, and unintentionally, alter the demographic mix in the U.S.


    i do not believe it was unintentional.
     
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    Ron seems to be trying to argue a guilt-by-association fallacy.
     
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    probably because it hasn't been confirmed and unsubstantiated rumors can put people in harm way
    that is why I'm waiting for an official statement on who the driver was
     
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    I certainly do not align with white supremacist AT ALL. Condemn their message totally. But they DO HAVE A RIGHT to march and express their view no matter how warped.

    I also condemn counter protesters who go to a march to incite violence and create a riot. They do NOT have a right to disrupt a permitted march because they disagree with the message of the march.

    Let the white supremacist march and then hold your own march to counter their view. An even bigger march.
     
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    Bigotry is anything that marginalises another
     
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    There's several things going on: Firstly there is an element of radicals within the Democratic Party that want to ethnically topple this country so as to take it over by demographic replacement as the large majority of third world arrivals vote liberal. It's also a way of getting rid of a culture that is antithetical to leftist tenets, to rip apart its institutions and replace it with something in the left's image, and to relegate the founding majority to the fringes of society.
     
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    On what account are these protesters white supremacists, especially exclusively so?
     
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    If that's the case, then you wouldn't want whites demographically displaced in the countries they founded. If that's not marginalization, what is?

    And btw, your definition has nothing to do with the definition of bigotry in the dictionary.
     
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