BREAKING: Car plows into dozens of protesters at far-right rally, extremely serious injuries

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  1. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Being proud of being white is no offense to other races just as being proud of being an American is no offense to other countries.
     
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    You mean defending your property and rights is "subversion of the govt"? Thanks for admitting you support tyranny and want a dictatorship.



    And you are wrong. Dylan Roof was not political, he was not on the "right". He was consumed with race, not politics.

    Strike 3 (and 4) for you. You are OUT.

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    And you show your total ignorance of the subject. The obvious example of "right wing" violence is Timothy McVeigh.

    Come back when you get an education.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    So the white guy lives in another State, drives to Virginia for the protest, gets in his car, zooms down the street at a very high speed where people are shoulder to shoulder, kills one person outright and injures about 2 dozen, reverses at a high speed, evades immediate apprehension and the racist thug cops and crooked DA only charge him with one count of second degree murder.

    Is this a great country or what? Why go through the motions of a trial? Just release him with an apology and buy him a new car with a full tank of gas so that he can drive back to Ohio.
     
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    I do not care what you think but it appears that you feel threatened by the fact that your boy is as phony as a dildo.
     
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    Funny
     
  6. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Phony? Trump was born in America, went to school in America, his church didn't hate America, his wife didn't recently become proud of America, and he's not giving billions of dollars to people who hate America. Your move, Fidel.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    It'll be a miracle if he's charged with leaving the scene to avoid apprehension.
     
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    No I don't think "leftism", whatever that is, is superior. Furthermore that is something that is dangerous and destructive. One need only look and Hillary Clinton and Libya for an example of that type of thinking. Assuming, of course, that Hillary Clinton's activity in that regard represents "leftism." Any rate, I don't want to get too academic here, but I think you may get the point.
     
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    The Bundy's were not defending property rights. They were abusing public lands illegally

    And yea...Roof was a right wing racist...like the a##holes in Charlottesville
     
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    I explained to you why the same principles do not apply by showing why your dumb analogy is dumb. People wouldn't build houses if they knew that anyone who didn't contribute to building the house could just come and claim ownership over the house. Nobody would own or improve upon property because they would have no guarantee that they would be able to benefit from the fruits of their labor. The same does not hold true for nations. So long as the people who participated in the founding the nation continue to be equal citizens, they should be indifferent as to who else joins the nation later on.

    Moreover, as I've said repeatedly and you continue to ignore, your ideal system, if followed to its logical conclusion, would require awarding higher classes of citizenship to people based on their ancestor's contribution to building this nation, which would lead to absurd results that even you wouldn't like. For instance, what about a black man who was the descendant of another black man who fought in the revolutionary war? Would he have a stronger claim to determining the future of this nation than a white European whose family immigrated to the United States in the 1940s?

    Moreover, your definition of progeny is extreme. Not all Europeans are related. The idea that Europeans constitute a single group is just retarded.

    Is that really what is happening? The muslim population in france is growing higher than anywhere else in the world but they still only make up 7% of the population. Even counting other immigrants, it doesn't sound like the "natural" French are at risk of becoming minorities any time soon. Again, nonsense arguments like this just convince me further that the source of your ideology comes down to animus.

    Just lol. I repeat, nonsense arguments like this just convince me further that the source of your ideology comes down to animus.

    I don't get it. Are you saying Whites are mistreated in Saudi Arabia? That's certainly true of non-muslims, but I don't know about whites per se.

    Again, it seems like you should be focusing your energy on all people who are not descendants of the original founders. Funny how you're only targeting the black portion of that population. #animus

    Whites don't have ownership over American values, and there's no risk that those values will be compromised if we let in some black people. Yes, there will be people in this country who worship different gods and have different understandings of gender roles. That should not impair whites from enjoying the values and culture that they enjoy in American life.

    Furthermore, I can't stress enough that white people don't have claim over everything every white person has ever accomplished. This isn't a team effort. We're not in a competition with the other races to see who can accomplish the most.

    I say an ideal country's immigration laws do not discriminate based on whether applicants have the same skin color as the founders of that country. I wouldn't say that's the same as throwing open one's borders. It's not like we need to let everyone in. That would not be sustainable.

    You do realize that by that logic no "homeland" country would take in immigrants, right? Unless you're saying the United States is a homeland for all whites, in which case just lol man.

    It sounds like your real homeland is whatever European country your family came from. If you are looking to preserve the uniqueness of your people perhaps you should return to your homeland and argue for stricter immigration laws there.

    As I explained to you, it's not just a label. There's no utility to keeping America an all white nation. Therefore, it stands to reason that your only motivation is animus.

    If I'm accusing you of anything it's not thinking through your own ideas. Your ideal system of government, taken to the logical extreme, would be a class system where people are awarded higher citizenship status based on when their descendants came to the United States.

    Your justification for returning our immigration system to the way it was in the 1960s is that whites have a better claim to immigrant to determine the future of the United States than non-whites because whites were the majority demographic at the time the nation was founded. I've repeatedly explained to you why that's idiotic.

    As if all Muslims have a right to immigrant between all Muslim countries. I don't pretend to know the immigration laws of Muslim nations but I imagine there's more to it than "You're Muslim? You're in!" Instead of saying Muslims have a right to the middle east or what not you should have said, for example "Iranians have a right to determine the future of Iran."

    We're getting to one of the fundamental flaws of your reasoning. You assume that immigrants are necessarily bottom feeders "who can't hack it" whatever that means.

    More to the point, are you saying Muslim countries shouldn't allow non-Muslims immigrants?

    It hasn't happened in American yet.

    Remember when you were complaining earlier about someone saying the alt right were nazis? And do you also remember your endless bitching about labels like "racist" and "bigot." Guess your motto is "do as I say, not as I do."

    I see. You have it all figured out.

    Perhaps you should internalize my responses instead of responding with endless non-responses.

    Again, earlier you were criticizing others poster for saying that all the alt right people are Nazis. Now you're bunching all people who are critical of white folks together, even those who are only critical of white people who think they own this country. It's all the same, you say. Then why can't I say all alt-righters are nazis? I'll tell you why. Because that would be stupid, as is your comment.

    I know you claim to have it all figured out but it doesn't seem like that is happening. You seem to think that any white person who isn't fully on board with the "Whites own this country" narrative is ashamed of his heritage. I shouldn't have to tell you how dumb that is.

    Alex Jones.

    I'm sorry you were once on one extreme. It seems like joining the other extreme is the wrong approach. Maybe you should have aimed for the middle ground. But I guess if it was easy enough to trick you to joining one extreme it was easy enough to get you to switch sides.
     
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    He was clearly a terrorist exactly like the ISIS terrorist in Sweden
     
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    This is hilarious =

    "An Ohio man was charged with murder after a car plowed into a crowd of demonstrators following a foiled white nationalist rally Saturday in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing a 32-year-old woman and leaving 19 others injured, police and officials said.

    James Alex Fields, Jr. of Maumee Ohio faces one count of second degree murder, three counts of malicious wounding and one count of hit-and-run after the incident, which sent pedestrians flying."
    http://abcnews.go.com/US/car-hits-c...-nationalist-rally-virginia/story?id=49179590
     
  13. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If that's the case then he should fry. But I doubt he has a ton of people who will cheer him on and follow in his footsteps.
     
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    Oh, that's right. His Chrysler is a gun! :roflol:

    What happened 100% proves you anti-gunners are wrong.

    MANY of the protesters were legally openly wearing a handgun. MANY guns were legally present. With the urging in every possible way for the occasion to become violent by the leftwing MSM, Democrat officials and the Democrat police chief, it did become violent.

    NOT ONE SHOT IS REPORTED TO HAVE BEEN FIRED! The only weapons use? The guy in the car. NO ONE WAS SHOT. NO ONE WAS STABBED. NO ONE ATTACKED WITH ANY DEADLY WEAPON. I have no doubt the Democrat officials in Virginia and across the nation are BITTERLY disappointed there was no gun play that they so clearly wanted to happen. They did, though, get death that they wanted.

    The protesting, with a lot of guns present and not a shot fired, proves your anti-gun team 100% wrong. In fact, the presence of guns may have keep people from being stabbed, hit with bottles and rocks, or attacked with other deadly weapons, as has happened at protests that go violent with no guns present.

    The Democrat officials and MSM miscalculate how brave and sacrificial the counter protesters they rallied up were.

    Seriously, MOST people are intelligent enough to not throw rocks and bottles at a group of people when some of those people are openly wearing 45s and 9mms. So bitterly to them, Democrat officials were not able to get the counter protesters they ginned up to go suicidal by attacking armed protesters with rocks and bottles - and getting themselves shot for it. Nor could the Democrat police chief get even one of his officers shot by having his officers charge at peaceful protesters, including armed marchers, with a massive riot squad attacks.

    But I'm confident otherwise Democrat talking heads, Democrat officials and the MSM will continue to be able to get increasing numbers of people injured and killed. Its good for ratings and ranting to do so.
     
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    Stay out of the road! It is well known that pedestrians who stand in the road often are hit by vehicles. Having your protesters standing in the street to block traffic is a bit like gathering a protest down range of a gun range trying to stop bullets.
     
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    The MSM, Democrat officials and the Democrat police chief completely disagree with your first sentence. Even before the rally began, the Democrat police chief declared it was illegal, essentially declared martial law and that the constitutional right to assembly and free speech was suspended.
     
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    Surprise surprise, he looks like an inbreed. Just what the white nationalists/kkk ordered.

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    Taylor Lorenz, Tech reporter for The Hill, tweeted that police officers think that the person that ran people down was not malicious in intent and that the driver was scared. His car was being swarmed and some of them turned violent.[16] Lorenz was also punched in the face at the rally. [32]

    A 32-year-old woman, identified as Heather Heyer died as a result of the incident. [29] [32] Her death is being investigated as a homicide. [29] [32]
    Source: https://everipedia.org/wiki/james-alex-fields-jr/#ixzz4pbY0DuGL

    Seems everyone is jumping to conclusions...Seems like the guy may have feared for his life if violent leftist surrounded his vehicle and he was punched in the face. So let the police do their jobs and see what happens.
     
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    Interesting, and hugely extenuating if true.
     
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    Oh good gracious. Please don't send him back to Ohio. Ohio has more than its share of these guys. I agree, no trial. Treat him like him and his friends want to treat others. Throw a rope over a tree limb.
     
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    It came directly from the article that was posted with part of the story. Whether it is true or not, time will tell. If he's guilty, throw the book at the guy, if not...
     
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    You like being racist, don't you, even against your own race. That is how BIZARRE the Democrat Party and their minions have become.

    Bet you're not willing to post your own picture, are you? :roflol:
     
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    He's a vet, so I'm wondering if being punched in the face by an Alt-left goon might have triggered him. That puncher should be charged along with the driver if so.
     
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    The GOP Think Tank has sent the Trump violent cretins some permit experts so they don't damage their head and anus by excessive scratching to stimulate their thinking.
     

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