Breaking : Numerous people shot outside UK Parliament .....

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  1. Thehumankind

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    The perpetrators I think believe that a certain Muslim community is like a powder keg, it only needs friction and spark to set it off. The best way to do it is to let the British sentiments struck the flint.
     
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    Have you never been on Facebook where posters proudly claim that they would laugh if the pig heads left outside mosques were actually bombs and blew up the mosques and taking all the **********s to where they belong. These posters are real and I personally know some of them. As for anonymous internet forums, there is no such thing unless someone goes to a lot of effort to hide their identity.
     
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    And yet nothing stopped you saying anything
     
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    Clearly you missed the episode filmed in Dover and Bradford! You are just making things up or have no clue
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ]You don't seem understand that the Islamists are killing people all over the word and that Britain is just one of thir objectives, If you'd read what they're saying you'd understand a great deal more. Where are you getting your news on current events?
    Diverting to he IRA may make you feel more secure but that is well past and quite a different war. Best move on.
    Islam is both a political and religious war. You'll soon see stricter blasphemy laws with ever increasing penalties. Probably within 15 year or so.
     
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    I think we've reached the point when we will simply have to forget good manners and start being tougher on 5th columnists within our own population. I view most liberals in the UK as traitors. Most of them would sell out their own mothers if that could benefit them personally. Despicable people lying through their teeth.

    This is the grim reality British people face. In my opinion Liberals and their allies destroyed Christianity in the UK. The United Kingdom is no longer a Christian country. But what's more worrying is that at the same time liberals keep appeasing and promoting Islam.

    Welcome To Londonistan: 423 New Mosques; 500 Closed Churches

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-02/welcome-londonistan-423-new-mosques-500-closed-churches

    British multiculturalists are feeding Islamic fundamentalism. Muslims do not need to become the majority in the UK; they just need gradually to Islamize the most important cities. The change is already taking place.
    British personalities keep opening the door to introducing Islamic sharia law. One of the leading British judges, Sir James Munby, said that Christianity no longer influences the courts and these must be multicultural, which means more Islamic. Rowan Williams, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, and Chief Justice Lord Phillips, also suggested that the English law should "incorporate" elements of sharia law.
    British universities are also advancing Islamic law. The academic guidelines, "External speakers in higher education institutions", provide that "orthodox religious groups" may separate men and women during events. At the Queen Mary University of London, women have had to use a separate entrance and were forced to sit in a room without being able to ask questions or raise their hands, just as in Riyadh or Tehran.

    "London is more Islamic than many Muslim countries put together", according to Maulana Syed Raza Rizvi, one of the Islamic preachers who now lead "Londonistan", as the journalist Melanie Phillips has called the English capital. No, Rizvi is not a right-wing extremist. Wole Soyinka, a Nobel Laureate for Literature, was less generous; he called the UK "a cesspit for Islamists".

    "Terrorists can not stand London multiculturalism", London's mayor Sadiq Khan said after the recent deadly terror attack at Westminster. The opposite is true: British multiculturalists are feeding Islamic fundamentalism. Above all, Londonistan, with its new 423 mosques, is built on the sad ruins of English Christianity.

    The Hyatt United Church was bought by the Egyptian community to be converted to a mosque. St Peter's Church has been converted into the Madina Mosque. The Brick Lane Mosque was built on a former Methodist church. Not only buildings are converted, but also people. The number of converts to Islam has doubled; often they embrace radical Islam, as with Khalid Masood, the terrorist who struck Westminster.

    The Daily Mail published photographs of a church and a mosque a few meters from each other in the heart of London. At the Church of San Giorgio, designed to accommodate 1,230 worshipers, only 12 people gathered to celebrate Mass. At the Church of Santa Maria, there were 20...

    The nearby Brune Street Estate mosque has a different problem: overcrowding. Its small room and can contain only 100. On Friday, the faithful must pour into the street to pray. Given the current trends, Christianity in England is becoming a relic, while Islam will be the religion of the future.

    In Birmingham, the second-largest British city, where many jihadists live and orchestrate their attacks, an Islamic minaret dominates the sky. There are petitions to allow British mosques to call the Islamic faithful to prayer on loudspeakers three times a day.

    By 2020, estimates are that the number of Muslims attending prayers will reach at least 683,000, while the number of Christians attending weekly Mass will drop to 679,000. "The new cultural landscape of English cities has arrived; the homogenised, Christian landscape of state religion is in retreat", said Ceri Peach of Oxford University. While nearly half of British Muslims are under the age of 25, a quarter of Christians are over 65. "In another 20 years there are going to be more active Muslims than there are churchgoers," said Keith Porteous Wood, director of the National Secular Society.

    Since 2001, 500 London churches of all denominations have been turned into private homes. During the same period, British mosques have been proliferating. Between 2012 and 2014, the proportion of Britons who identify themselves as Anglicans fell from 21% to 17%, a decrease of 1.7 million people, while, according to a survey conducted by the respected NatCen Social Research Institute, the number of Muslims has grown by almost a million. Churchgoers are declining at a rate that within a generation, their number will be three times lower than that of Muslims who go regularly to mosque on Friday.

    Demographically, Britain has been acquiring an increasingly an Islamic face, in places such as Birmingham, Bradford, Derby, Dewsbury, Leeds, Leicester, Liverpool, Luton, Manchester, Sheffield, Waltham Forest and Tower Hamlets. In 2015, an analysis of the most common name in England showed it was Mohammed, including spelling variations such as Muhammad and Mohammad.

    Most important cities have huge Muslim populations: Manchester (15.8%), Birmingham (21.8%) and Bradford (24.7%). In Birmingham, the police just dismantled a terrorist cell; there is also a greater probability that a child will be born into a Muslim family than into a Christian one. In Bradford and Leicester, half the children are Muslim. Muslims do not need to become the majority in the UK; they just need gradually to Islamize the most important cities. The change is already taking place. "Londonistan" is not a Muslim majority nightmare; it is a cultural, demographic and religious hybrid in which Christianity declines and Islam advances...
     
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    That's probably because there is little positive about Islam. Most religions have at least one redeeming feature but Islam seems to be the exception.

    It's more serious practitioners appear determined to remain ignorant about the world around them, just have they have been for several hundred years. But they can often recite the Koran backwards and forward, a skill that holds few opportunities in the modern world but which was a requirement in the third world.
     
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    Bunch of primitives, eh ?

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    IRA in the past? Where are you getting your news on current events?

    'IRA' says it planted bomb under PSNI officer's car in Derry
    http://www.irishnews.com/news/2017/...b-under-psni-s-officer-s-car-in-derry-945355/


    'IRA' says it struck police vehicle with mortar bomb

    http://www.irishnews.com/news/north...ws/strabane-explosion-claimed-by-ira--978028/

     
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    Amazing how ignorant some posters here are. They judge book by its cover. Read the book. They're freely available in all mosques across the globe. Have a look how primitive their teachings are. Especially Wahhabi and Deobandi sponsored schools and mosques.
     
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    Any society is such a powder keg at least! Why do young British become neo Nazis and hunt foreigners like animals as this Nazi scum does in other countries too?
     
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    And why the hack is then no one going against the Mosques sponsored by extremists? Because they have not the balls in the trouser to do so, simply because they get then in trouble with countries like Saudi Arabia! No one of these so evil lefties tell that is no good step to fight any of extremists and forbid them to teach and spread their mentally cancer to people! But not to have the balls to do so on one side and then on the other side whining about these so evil Muslims is only lame ... very lame!
     
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    People need to wake up and smell the coffee. There are only two (2) mosques in the UK, according to a database of British Islam, that follow modernist interpretations of the Koran. Shocking revelation.

    Who runs our mosques?

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/2014/06/who-runs-our-mosques/

    In America, most mosques profess to teach a version of Islam adapted to the modern world. That's not what I've found here...
    Innes Bowen

    The introduction of a madrassa curriculum at a secular state school in Birmingham and talk of Christian pupils at risk of ‘cultural isolation’ seem to have come as a revelation to non-Muslim Britain. They should not have. Islam in Britain is dominated by a very specific, and rather illiberal, version of the faith — one that, if anything, seems to be becoming more conservative over time.

    As the Muslim population became more established, one might have assumed that a westernised form of Islam would have come to dominate Britain’s mosques. According to a database of British Islam, however, only two out of 1,700 mosques in Britain follow modernist interpretations of the Koran. It’s not the same elsewhere in the West. In a 2011 survey of Islam in the United States, 56 per cent of mosques described themselves as following an interpretation of Islam adapted to modern circumstances. This has not happened in Britain...
     
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    The liberals among us, and the 'We're all human beings' brigade won't have the faintest idea what you mean . . .

    . . . until it's too late! Trouble is that we'll all go under with them when the **** hits the fan.
     
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    Fire up the ovens eh Mr Schicklgruber?
     
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    Nowadays it's evident which one is the most explosive.
     
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    Really? I do not believe it, because the one is simply perceived by their "spectacular" terror attacks by the media much more than the others. If anywhere on a weekend a whole of England is distributed a dozen foreigners of Neo-Nazis half dead or even dead, then takes at best and as in any country only the local press of it note on page 5 or so!
     
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    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...dish-iranian-asylum-seeker-goat-a7663691.html

     
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    LOL. Bollocks. QT is a left wing wank-fest headed by a champaign socialist. The sheer proportion of women in hijabs is derisory when compared to their actual percentage of society. It is about as representative of society at large as Jeremy Corbyn.


    Well, I applaud your surroundings, if that's actually the case..
     
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    Actually no, I was unaware of that, and Facebook has a policy of disallowing any anti-Muslim content. You and the other poster above I responded to are painting a picture of open, public opposition to Muslims I have literally never witnessed. I'll take you at your word and in doing so take some consolation from the revelations, but I can't help but remain skeptical.

    BTW, I said QT was basically, not exclusively, London-centric. It's in London more than anywhere else, and it frequently seems it's just always bloody there, with the inevitable, baying left-wing audience so carefully selected by the openly left-wing slanted BBC.
     
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    ISIS and the rest of the Muslim extremist leading the news everyday with their love of faith killings, somehow makes me think that they are the most dangerous kind.
     
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    No one denies that they are dangerous and need to be fought... but they and not 2 billion people being marked as the evil because saying to their god Allah!
     
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    I could cite some Quran verses like.

    Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)" (Translation is from the Noble Quran) The verse prior to this (190) refers to "fighting for the cause of Allah those who fight you" leading some to claim that the entire passage refers to a defensive war in which Muslims are defending their homes and families. The historical context of this passage is not defensive warfare, however, since Muhammad and his Muslims had just relocated to Medina and were not under attack by their Meccan adversaries. In fact, the verses urge offensive warfare, in that Muslims are to drive Meccans out of their own city (which they later did). Verse 190 thus means to fight those who offer resistance to Allah's rule (ie. Muslim conquest). The use of the word "persecution" by some Muslim translators is disingenuous - the actual Arabic words for persecution (idtihad) - and oppression are not used instead of fitna. Fitna can mean disbelief, or the disorder that results from unbelief or temptation. This is certainly what is meant in this context since the violence is explicitly commissioned "until religion is for Allah" - ie. unbelievers desist in their unbelief. [Editor's note: these notes have been modified slightly after a critic misinterpreted our language. Verse 193 plainly says that 'fighting' is sanctioned even if the fitna 'ceases'. This is about religious order, not real persecution.]
     
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    No, we are 'at war' with a tiny minority of ignorant lunatics who have usurped and bastardized a faith for their own ends. We are not 'at war' with Islam.
    Were we 'at war' with Catholicism when the IRA were bombing, shooting and torturing people for decades?
     
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    Again this nonsense? Really?

    Man ... you make the same BS error as this Islamist scum does and this is slowly boring to explain it!
    Unbelievers are NOT CHRISTIANS AND JEWS in the original Koran! This is a FACT as it is FACT that there are so many BS translations existing which made out of Black sudden White and reversed!
    There was one part (Sure) for example, where the BS translation tells that Muslims are not allowed to make friendship with Christians and Jews! Beeep! Correct translation is that Muslims should not search the protections of them!

    And so it goes on and on ... and yes, the Islamist scum use the wrong translations and the fakes with intention. All too often the passages were in origin is written unbelievers is suddenly changed with Christian and / or Jews in text.
    And right this is the annoying part, because no real institution attacks this BS to be what it is ... BS! And then the next annoying point is that the Muslim haters reply this BS to back their hate or even the others not really in general Muslim hating people use it to back that Islam is the problem! And I as atheist must show this clear and normally obvious point again and again!
     

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