Breaking : Numerous people shot outside UK Parliament .....

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  1. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    I am fully aware of the family law courts operated under Sharia law which Muslims use voluntarily.
    I am also aware you are nothing but an attention seeking troll intent on exploiting this tragedy to push your anti-Muslim agenda.
    I shall no longer be feeding you or your dishonest arguments in the hope that you will scuttle back under your bridge.
    Us true Brits have a stiff upper lip and are not easily scared by your kind of drivel.
    Bye
     
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  2. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Then why did you claim "As for Sharia law you can take your ignorant exaggerations and shove them"? In fact I didn't exaggerate at all, which is why you don't quote me..
    Does that conflict with your 'pro muslim agenda'?
    If they were actually dishonest you'd have no problem refuting them, but of course you can't..
    Actually it's you who is running off with lips a'tremble.. That 'stiff upper' nonsense disappeared well over a generation ago.
    Adios, Muchacho.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The enemy inside - every country has them, and we have more than our share. They're called 'liberals'.
     
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    Different and many reason, often personal and individual reason. I as convinced atheist can barely explain why people believe at all such fairy tales called religions (and no matter which religion!) at least, but I will try it.
    With look on some single cases where some normal Christian guys suddenly become not only Muslim, but also being extremist Islamist and even terrorist etc., at all of them was a same thing given:

    All had certain social problems, were loners, had hardly any real friends, were teased for whatever and all the like. In short, they had become vulnerable to being caught by ideological or religious Rat Pipers. These Rat Pipers all come together with the same methods, whether they are Islamists, neo-Nazis, any sect or whatever. The Rat Pipers offer themselves as the good friend, help also effeltiv and thus put these young people under the spell and convince them of the ideology. Already indoctrinated and brainwashing begins!


    Even though it is hotly debated, Jews, Christians and Muslims have the same religious basis, and ultimately they all believe in the same main god or whatever one wants to call this divine being "up there". The Jews are still waiting for the prophete to come, the Christians say that it was Jesus and the Muslims?
    Well, you will wonder now and no joke (!!!), Muslims really recognize Jesus as a prophet, but also say that Mohammed was a prophet, and her interpretation of the prophet issue is in itself different from that of Jews and Christians.

    Also ... look:
    If you take the Old Testament, where the prophet's coming is mentioned, there is a king of heaven, and somehow he does not appear to be a really peaceful prophet in the prophecy, who is to be expected … so not really someone like this Jesus!


    First of all, you must understand that there was no clear secularization in Islam as in western Christianity in the age of enlightenment. The reasons for this are manifold; That there was no real separation between the state and the Religion, and so far often do not exist until now. Can you imagine the pope as a US president? Hardly .... I can't imagine too, but in Islam it is not really a problem to imagine, because their political dictators, kings and so on reason their power with the blood line back to Mohamed as the Royal Family in Saudi Arabia does.

    If you now, with this basic knowledge, take the purely Christian crusts and their history, then you must seriously ask yourself why the Inquisition, the witches burns, the crusades and the forced emotions were given entirely with a view to the so peaceful New Testament Apart from the religious wars between Catholics and Protestants!
     
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    Why the hack is or should something wrong with me that I spent time to understand things like Islam to understand facts instead blabbering nonsense? Is it forbidden to investigate deep in something?
    You can ask me same about Tank Warfare from WW-1 until today too! You can ask me deep about US Revolution War of 1776 and you can ask me some other things in deep questions too!

    So because I am interested in something what you hate and blame and because I bash BS blabbering with pure facts around the ears of those who do, I am the evil and the enemy now? Truth can be uncomfortable ... I know!

    BTW ... the keyword is secularization which is not really given in Islam and what is the key problem aside fact that the West backs too much dictator scum which depress any trials for secularization in democratic behavior!
     
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  6. Montegriffo

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    So you understand that the type of Sharia law practised in the UK has nothing to do with cutting off hands or stoning adulterers to death but is for settling family matters such as divorce amongst Muslims and is purely voluntary?
     
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    This should win the stupidest post of the month award in more than one category.
     
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  8. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_Kingdom#Sharia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Arbitration_Tribunal
     
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    It reads like one on Stormont towards someone they think is a Jew - but hey we are well, well on that road.
     
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    Yea, according to you anyone who wants to expand their knowledge must be a Muslim! Hmm, perhaps that is a back handed complement to Muslims - expanding knowledge is one of the doctrines of the Qu'ran. You are going to clean up on all the stupidest posts of the month awards
     
  12. Fred C Dobbs

    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As we see on many occasions in public venues, and on debate boards also, the Left doesn't want to debate ideas they want to cancel the debate altogether, or run for cover if their feelings get hurt when the questions raised run contrary to their feelings. They've come to be called 'Snowflakes'.

    Here's an interesting column on the subject I encourage those interested to take time to read because it explains that the problems aren't restricted to Britain, Denmark, Canada, or the US but to all the Democracies. Perhaps a 'Snowflake Alert' should be issued. https://www.steynonline.com/7740/the-big-shut-up
     
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    Here's more:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-fell-thames-during-london-115854156.html

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    Woman Who Fell into Thames During London Terrorist Attack Dies, Bringing Death Toll to 5
    Dave Quinn,People Fri, Apr 7 4:58 AM PDT
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    The Romanian tourist who fell into the River Thames during March 22’s terrorist attack on Britain’s House of Parliament has died, - bringing the total death toll of the heinous ambush to five.

    Andreea Cristea was taken off of life support on Thursday afternoon, police told The New York Times, after spending two weeks receiving extensive medical treatment in a London hospital.

    The 31-year-old architect was rescued from the cold river after the attack, where she was seen floating face-down by witnesses after a terrorist barreled his vehicle into pedestrians on Westminster Bridge, the Associated Press reported. She was diagnosed with a blood clot on the brain, receiving emergency surgery.

    Six people, including the attacker, died in the attack. American Kurt Cochran, 54, who was on vacation with his wife; British mother-of-three Aysha Frade, 43; and retired London window cleaner Leslie Rhodes, 75, were also killed on Westminster Bridge. Police officer Keith Palmer, 48, was stabbed to death as he tried to stop the assailant from entering Parliament.

    Cristea was traveling wit her boyfriend Andrei Burnaz, who suffered a broken foot in the attack, the Associated Press reported.

    The couple were in London for Burnaz’s birthday. He was planning to propose to his girlfriend on the day of the attack, the Times reported.


    In a statement, Cristea’s family and Burnaz described her as “our shining ray of light that will forever keep on shining in our hearts,” the BBC reported.

    “After fighting for her life for over two weeks, our beloved and irreplaceable Andreea - wonderful daughter, sister, partner, dedicated friend and the most unique and life-loving person you can imagine - was cruelly and brutally ripped away from our lives in the most heartless and spiritless way,” they said.

    “There are no words to even begin to describe the crushing pain and emptiness that is left in our hearts,” they continued.

    Thanking medical personnel for their help, Cristea’s family said they would be donating all the money raised to help Cristea since the March 22 attack to charity.

    Burnaz, who received surgery on his foot, visited Westminster Bridge during last week’s candlelight vigils to lay a single white rose, the BBC reported.

    On March 222, an assailant careened a car through one of the busiest and most recognizable parts of Britain’s capital about 2:40 p.m. local time, hitting dozens of pedestrians before crashing into the gate outside the Palace of Westminster during Prime Minister’s Questions time. The attacker then got out and fatally stabbed a police officer before being shot dead by guards.

    The death toll from the attack now stands at five. Prime Minister Theresa May also said that at least 40 people were injured.

    This article was originally published on PEOPLE.com
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Expanding knowledge is one of the doctrines of the Qu'ran"??? Who told you this?

    If you jut take a brief look at all the Muslim dominated counties around the globe you'll quickly notice that ignorance, poverty and third world living conditions are commonplace, that the Koran is the book which take precedence over all others. As a consequence there is no real intellectual class in Islam which doesn't involve the Koran.
    Well I'm sure this Muslim had a very good reason to murder Andreea Cristea, and the others as well. Perhaps it was something which occurred in 1523, 1953, 824, or whenever, but somehow they, and the leftists, will offer a rationalization.
     
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    Here's more:

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/79...ice-told-no-uniform-travel-london-westminster

    Police told NOT to travel in uniform to PC Keith Palmer’s funeral for ‘safety reasons'

    POLICE officers attending PC Keith Palmer’s funeral today have been told not to wear their uniforms when travelling to Westminster for “personal safety reasons”.

    By SOFIA PETKAR
    PUBLISHED: 11:12, Mon, Apr 10, 2017 | UPDATED: 14:22, Mon, Apr 10, 2017

    Horses lead PC Palmer's procession through London

    More than 5,000 police officers from every force in the UK have turned out to pay their final respects to hero PC Keith Palmer, who was killed in the line of duty during the London terror attack in March.

    The largest-ever gathering of British police officers will line the route to Southwark Cathedral, where the officer's funeral service is taking place.

    Changing cubicles have been provided for officers who have been advised not to travel to the city wearing their uniforms for “personal safety reasons”.

    The advisory has been issued by the Metropolitan Police Federation.

    Thousands of people will turn out to pay respectsGETTY
    Thousands of people will turn out to pay their respects to the murdered policeman
    About 50 members of PC Keith Palmer’s family, including his wife, daughter, parents and siblings, will attend the service.

    More than 50,000 members of the public are also expected to turn out to pay their respects to the murdered officer, who was stabbed to death outside Parliament during Khalid Masood’s murderous rampage across Westminster.

    Officers from the Metropolitan Police Service and from the wider service will be joined by colleagues from the forces of England and Wales to honour their fallen colleague.

    The Armed Forces will be represented at the funeral by a number of serving and former members.

    The funeral of PC Keith Palmer in pictures
    Mon, April 10, 2017
    The funeral of the police officer who lost his life in the Westminster terror attack is scheduled for today at 2pm. His body was transferred to the Palace of Westminster yesterday, where a private memorial service was held for members of his close family

    Police officials and mounted police lead the hearse carrying the coffin of London Metropolitan Police Officer PC Keith Palmer during his funeral parade EPA

    Police officers line the street as the coffin of PC Keith Palmer, who was killed in the recent Westminster attack, is transported from the Palace of Westminster
    Police officers and well-wishers line the route in Southwark
    A couple watch as the coffin of PC Keith Palmer, who was killed in the recent Westminster attack, is transported from the Palace of Westminster
    The hearse carrying the coffin of PC Keith Palmer leaves the Chapel of St Mary Undercroft within the Palace of Westminster
    Part of the funeral cortege arrives at the Houses of Parliament
    The coffin of PC Keith Baker is loaded into the hearse
    They will include an Officer and 21 soldiers from across the Regiment acting as ‘Route Markers’ outside of Southwark Cathedral.

    Two Royal Artillery Association Standard Bearers will attend as well as an Honourable Artillery Company Bugler.

    The bugler, Lance Corporal Graham Haynes of the Honourable Artillery Company, is also a serving officer within the Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Command.

    In addition, there will be a number of serving officers and soldiers from 106 (Y) Regiment Royal Artillery Regimental Headquarters and a small representation of serving officers and soldiers from 266 Battery 104 Regiment Royal Artillery.

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    Officers changed in specially provided cubicles for 'safety reasons'
    The Senior Serving Officer in attendance will be Lieutenant General R E Nugee CVO CBE who is the Honorary Colonel of 106 (Y) RA.

    It is also expected that approximately 50 ex-serving Regimental personnel will be in attendance at the Cathedral, including Lt Colonel James Cleverly MP.

    PC Palmer's body was brought to the chapel at 2pm on Sunday, with a special escort by the Metropolitan Police, where it was greeted by a guard of honour.

    A group of officers wearing white gloves formed two lines to meet the vehicle as the coffin was carried inside.

    Police officers line procession route to pay respect to PC Palmer
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    Uniformed police lined the edge of the square and crowds of people gathered to pay their respects.



    The 48-year-old's coffin was granted permission by the Queen to rest in Westminster's Chapel of St Mary Undercroft before his funeral.

    It is an honour normally reserved for heads of state and which was bestowed on former prime minister Margaret Thatcher and Labour politician Tony Benn.
     
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    Finally, our Home Secretary and local dimbulb MP, Amber Rudd, made some off-the-cuff remark on the day after the attack to the effect that Londoners going about their business proved that the terrorists will never win. Standard post-attack fare, right? Only, I have just now worked out what our leaders mean when they say that. They mean, "we don't have to do anything, we don't have to change anything, we don't have to react in any way to what just happened; we'll go on just exactly as before and that will show those old terrorists we're not scared."

    But we are scared, fam. If you have a brain in your head, you're scared. And they ******n good and well better do something about it.

    -- Sweasel on the recent sudden jihad syndrome knife attack in Westminster

    http://sweasel.com/archives/17542
     
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    I think your blindly naive at best more than likely personally biased opinion and agenda that got logically and rationaly destroyed this entire thread no matter what weird card you tried to pick out of the hat is a very good indicator of who the real attention seeking troll is.

    By the way you dropped this excellent copy of the Koran as you stormed out of the thread too.
     
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    England has issues has had but wow to tell Police not to wear their uniforms when honoring a fallen peer? For safety reasons? That surely didn't happen. I'm disgusted.

    " fondly runs his hand through that little puddle of water called the Atlantic Ocean "
     
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    Nah, not naive at all. Just not prepared to start crapping myself because a few radicals happen to make a rare attack on the British mainland. I'm much more likely to get hurt in a random car accident than by an Islamic terrorist.
    I'm not swallowing this ''biggest threat to Western culture'' BS that certain people are pushing on us because they are scared of their own shadows.
    As for the Koran, I'm not interested in fairy tales which goes for the bible or any other religious text too.
    ps I never stormed out of the thread, I'm just not prepared to waste my time talking to dickheads.........
     
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    Did you perhaps mean 'Storm Front'? This is Stormont. :)

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    I admire your internet courage. Perhaps a thread on random car accidents would interest you more.
     

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