BREAKING: Robert Mueller is speaking right now, for the first time since the report was released

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  1. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    WITH the Russian Government. You don't understand the most basic facts of the case.
     
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    Over Hillary? You betcha!
     
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    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, Trump is certainly not guilty of stealing the horse but he is ceetainly guilty for not wanting to be hanged for it.
     
  4. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just remember that you set the new standard.

    I await your apology for your Uranium One posts claiming Hillary a traitor. Remember, this is YOUR standard, not mine
     
  5. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, but Hillary was guilty of crimes as outlined by Comey. She just was the right politics to get it excused.
     
  6. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What "crimes outlined by Comey" ?

    Again.....I await your apology about Uranium One
     
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  7. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you are still not aware of what she did and the laws she broke then there is no help for you.
     
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    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Comey clearly said that she did not because she did not have clear intent. But hey, you keep on dodging the original issue that your new standard requires you to exonerate Hillary on Uranium One. But I wont hold my breath on that one
     
  9. Hoosier8

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    Intent isn’t part of the laws she broke so..,
     
  10. grapeape

    grapeape Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    oh FFS it absolutely IS. Your being obtuse
     
  11. Hoosier8

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    Just because Comey made a decision for the DOJ stating intent does not make intent part of the laws she broke. Just because you are totally unaware of the law does not make you right. There were those in the FBI and DOJ that wanted to indict her but she had special protective status just because.
     
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    Good Lord !!!!! YOU should turn off Fox News. YOU are unaware of the most basic concepts of what we are debating, and laughably your trying to claim I dont

    FBI General Counsel James Baker, you know, the guy who decides to prosecute (Not Comey), said in testimony before yet another House investigation:
    Comey did not make the decision not to prosecute. The DOJ and the AG make that decision. Comey was the head of the FBI. The FBI is the investigative branch, not the prosecutorial branch.
     
  13. Hoosier8

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    Yet, intent is still not part of the law.

    Gosh, I didn't intend to kill someone. Gosh, I didn't intend to speed. Gosh, I didn't intend to break the law.

    Lynch said she would go by anything Comey decided so yes, he made the decision and Lynch decided not to do her job.

    Now, show us where intent is part of the code of the laws she broke.
     
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    FFS your being beyond obtuse. I just showed you where the FBI’s general counsel said it was and you don’t like it so you claim it doesnt exist.

    You deny all you want, intent is required.
     
  15. Hoosier8

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    Show the law.
     
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    Comey himself stated:

    Our investigation looked at whether there is evidence classified information was improperly stored or transmitted on that personal system, in violation of a federal statute making it a felony to mishandle classified information either intentionally or in a grossly negligent way, or a second statute making it a misdemeanor to knowingly remove classified information from appropriate systems or storage facilities.

    I’ll provide the law that he was referring to, 18 US Code 793, section f:

    (f)
    Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—

    Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793#

    She definitely violated number 1 in that section, and in her position, should have known that 2 was occurring, making the gross negligence even more visible.
     
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    The friggen legal counsel for the FBI said it was required. But Im sure Fox News knows better than the DOJ ;)
     
  18. Hoosier8

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    LOL, the FBI defending the FBI. There is no intent clause in the law. Legal experts are the ones that pointed that out.
     
  19. Nemesis

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    *LOL*

    Look it up.
     
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    You have yet to show the law stating intent is part of the law.
     
  21. Nemesis

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    You're the one screeching "lock her up!".

    You've seen Comey's analysis, which reflects the law. If you think that he's wrong, come up with "alternative law". Perhaps you could consult Kellyann Conway.
     
  22. Hoosier8

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    So you got nothing. Figures.
     
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    Inane post.

    You apparently don’t want to learn that you’re incorrect by doing a bare minimum of research. So be it.
     
  24. Hoosier8

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    And projection too. To be expected.
     
  25. Nemesis

    Nemesis Well-Known Member

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    Are there any other painfully obvious things that you want me to "prove" to you?

    *LOL*
     

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