BREAKING: U.S. Holocaust museum urges world leaders to press Iran on Holocaust denial

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  1. SamSkwamch

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    Why is it so important that Iran must believe in the official version of the holocaust story?
    What will happen, IF they refuse? Will that be enough reason for Israel to nuke Iran?
     
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    The entire Iranian society seems to be based on hate for Jews. Just look at Iran's annual Jew hating festival 'al quds day'. What kind of uncivilized animals are these Iranians? Denying the holocaust is just one of many ways Iran promotes hate for the Jewish people.
     
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    1000s of Jews live in peace in Iran. They have for centuries. Many stayed even after the massive financial incentives that others took to leave.

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    Thank-you, Jazz, I love your reality injections.
     
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    http://www.ibtimes.co.in/al-quds-day-thousands-march-irans-annual-anti-semitic-festival-685198

    al quds 1.jpg

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    Yes, Iran looks like a great place for Jews to live... Al Quds Day must be a wonderful time for Iranian Jews. Im sure they look forward to it..

    And not all Jews are good Jews, look look at these New York Jews supporting Al Quds. A few thousand Jews living in Iran does not make Iran a good place for Jews to live.

    al quds rabbis.jpg

    Western propaganda should hammer this Al Quds stuff. Not a lot of westerners are aware of Irans anti-Semitic Al Quds Day and any civilized citizen will be shocked by this anti-Jewish festival. Al Quds Day is indefensible. Al Quds Day makes it impossible for Iran to deny that Iranian society is based on racism toward, and hatred of Jews. Iran teaches Iranian children to be Jew haters from birth.
     
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    As much as I would like to agree with you.... the article talks about Israel and the government, and not Jewish people.
    I have to allow criticism of governments and policies as I do it to all other countries as I see fit, including my own.
     
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    Americans don't doubt the Holocaust or the horrors that happened during it. Jews in the US are not involved in any activism. They just want to be left alone.
     
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    WJV I love your posts but on this one I would say while I agree Iranian government and its ruling elite are anti semitic, consider whether the person who started this thread is trying to incite any negative comment he can get.

    Iranian people were and are some of the West's, The US's and Israel's closest friends and allies in the past and still are at the grass roots level because of commonly shared beliefs.

    There is no doubt extremist Iranians as you describe run the country but I would argue Iranians are very Westernized but held captive and their students are very progressive and many do not hate Jews, Israelis or the US or deny the holocaust and are held captive in a country they have no control over.

    I worry for those people because they are potential allies and good people caught in a nightmare. Thousands of students and activists have been murdered and slaughtered and need our support and I don't want to smeer them all because of the extremists running their government.

    So I agree with you I just want to distinguish innocent Iranians from their government.

    I personally think Obama has sold Iranian people out sucking up to the government. For a President who claimed to support spring uprisings he sure as hell sold out Iran's student an democratic movementa which contain some of the bravest people you will ever find who are willing to die and be tortured to pursue freedom for their people.

    They are the kind of people we need on our side fighting these extremist sob's.

    Iranians have spoken up when their government has denied the holocaust, in particular brave students who were arrested, tortured and killed for doing so. I must salute such people and not let SamS get them caught up in his threads that I believe are intended to spread hatred.
     
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    Well you are fooling no one. It is my opinion you started a holocaust denial thread to try incite holocaust deniers to come on this thread to try incite anti Jewish comments.

    One other thing this Jew is telling you, there are many Iranian Jews living in Israel. There are also many Iranians trying to bring democracy to their country. Neither hate Jews or deny the holocaust. Good luck thinking you will bait me or any other Jew or anyone else on this forum.
     
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    USHMM
    https://www.ushmm.org/

    I'm surprised you don't know what the USHMM is.
     
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    LOL, Margot... honestly.
     
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    you....have....got....to....be....kidding


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    There are dozens of them just in the US.
     
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    They deny it because I think they are planning to do the same afterwards.
    We all know to whom the Iranian nuclear program is dedicated.
     
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    It's a program of antisemitism as the deniers state the reason it is false is because Jews the world over worked triple time for years to fake photos, torture thousands of perpetrators, witnesses and enlist victims and government officials from a score of nations to conspire along with them all for greed to steal money from those who perpetrated this crime.

    No.
     
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    Read this, dear Amy:

    Exposing the Zionist Hidden Hand Ruling Britain and the United States
    by Christopher Bollyn

    For all practical purposes, the United States and Britain are Zionist-occupied nations. Because the American and British people are generally ignorant of what Zionism is, the meaning of this statement is not widely understood or appreciated.

    The lack of understanding by the public, however, doesn't change the fact that these once great nations have become Zionist-controlled states. The evidence is clearly seen in the self-destructive foreign policies these nations have pursued for the past 40 years or so.

    The Anglo-American "leadership" positions in the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq and their support of the costly Zionist fraud known as the "War on Terror" is further proof that Zionists control these nations – as if any were needed.

    How did these powerful and independent nations become Zionist-controlled? Unlike Palestine, where Eastern European Zionist immigrants used brutal terrorism to ethnically "cleanse" and conquer the land, in Britain and the United States the Zionists gained power gradually through "dumbing down" and effectively disenfranchising the native populations.

    In Britain and the United States, the Zionists saved the use of terrorism for later, after they already controlled the media and the levers of power and government.

    Americans today still believe they are free because the media tells them so, and because they don't see the restraints and are able to move around and buy things. Americans are, indeed, free to work and shop, but they have virtually no real political power whatsoever.

    A good example is that while an overwhelming majority of the U.S. population is against the war in Iraq, the war and the huge spending bills to support it go on unchallenged by their representatives in Congress. Why don't the Congressmen vote to stop the disastrous war that has consumed hundreds of billions of dollars and taken more than 3,000 American lives?
    ....
    Zionists, a marginal minority of Polish and Russian Jewish immigrants, were able to gain control of these great English-speaking nations by obtaining control of two fundamental institutions: the media and academia. This is not to say that they don't control other key institutions, but these two are of essential importance because they largely define the intellectual life of a nation.

    Read full article here:
    http://www.abeldanger.net/2014/10/exposing-zionist-hidden-hand-ruling.html
    ---------------
    You probably also never heard Sharon say, "we control America and the American people know it!"
    Anyway, IF you are one of them, then you don't need to worry.
     
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    It is interesting that a museum would have a voice at the U.N. I wonder if the outreach by the museum to the representatives at the U.N. had any effect at all. They're called representatives, right ?
     
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    "I'D RATHER BE A JEW IN IRAN THAN A PALESTINIAN IN OCCUPIED PALESTINE"

    It seems like you know very little about Iran outside of the desperate anti Iranian propaganda endemic to America's pro Israel news media that remains committed to thwarting any warming of US - Iranian relationships; a Zionist nightmare.

    America's infestation of parasitic & War-Mongering Ziono-Cons have tried for decades to get Americans to fight ANOTHER War for Israel like in Iraq.

    “QUIETLY LOBBYING CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE USE OF FORCE IN IRAQ WAS ONE OF AIPAC’S SUCCESSES OVER THE PAST YEAR.” AIPAC Executive Director Howard Kohr; N.Y. SUN JAN. ’03

    If you were a US Military Veteran & used any of our V.A. Hospitals you would see the REAL cost to America of Zionist driven Wars for Israel in the form of mangled, traumatized, burned & mutilated young Americans.

    But the Ziono-Cons & America's Ziono-Media Monopoly[1]. [2] that has filled your mind with anti Iranian bigotry
    will use any fraudulent ruse to drive America to War with Iran or at least brainwash poorly informed Americans into hating all Iranians

    Did you know that Jews in Iran constitute the largest population of Jews in the Middle East outside Israel.” (see below)

    Please Read and learn:




    “Iran’s Jewish community reflects a complicated relationship with Israel”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...31039e-2ac4-11e3-b141-298f46539716_story.html

    EXCERPT “A recent State Department report on religious freedoms around the world said of Iran that anti-
Semitic rhetoric by some government officials has resulted in a “hostile environment for the Jewish community,” but barring “some exceptions, there was little government restriction of, or interference with, Jewish religious practice. However, the Jewish community experienced official discrimination.”

    Those incidents have mostly involved difficulties securing government jobs or gaining entry to state-run universities, but Jews here insist that they practice their religion openly and are free to leave and that those who remain do so because they want to, not because they must.

    ...their numbers have remained consistent, and they constitute the largest population of Jews in the Middle East outside Israel.” CONTINUED

    I've been to Iran & found its people to be friendly, sophisticated, well educated and hospitable.


    If you are truly concerned about Human Rights abuses, you would join the rest of the Planet in condemning the REAL holocaust currently going on in Gaza & the rest of Zionist Occupied Historic Palestine.

    “BBC Poll: Israel Among World's Least Popular Nations”
    http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/bbc-poll-israel-among-world-s-least-popular-nations-1.525890







    [1] “DECLASSIFIED SENATE INVESTIGATION FILES REVEAL CLANDESTINE, ISRAELI PR CAMPAIGN IN AMERICA”
    http://www.prnewswire.com/news-rele...israeli-pr-campaign-in-america-100976089.html



    [2] “U.S. media coverage reveals a pro-Israel bias”
    http://www.japantimes.co.jp/opinion...erage-reveals-a-pro-israel-bias/#.Vhb3Zc02XUR
     
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    "THE SHOAH MUST GO ON AND ON AND ON .....AD NAUSEAM"




    To paraphrase Shakespeare's Quote from "As You Like It":

    "Sweet are the uses of adversity, Which, like the toad, ugly and venomous,Wears yet a precious jewel in his head;"

    "Sweet are the uses of The Holocaust, grisly & macabre, yields yet $Trillions in extortion & exploitation opportunities unlimited"

    I can think of no other incident of "adversity" that has has so many "uses" than the crass exploitation of the tiresome transparently fraudulent "Holocaust®" has held for Holocaustian proselytisers.

    Now, devout adherents to this ghoulish Cult of Holocaustianity have found one of the many uses of the Holocaust® to be a convenient smokescreen to Israel's REAL Holocausting of Palestine's Native non Jewish Residents and a cudgel with which to beat the Iranians for allowing open & free discussion of the "Genocide" that wasn't.

    No, 6 Million Jews were not systematically exterminated as per any German Plan.

    This simple fact is openly & irrefutably evident through an examination of intercepted German wire transmissions where:
    "The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, des- perate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps,....." (see below)




    “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE” by Nicholas Kollerstrom
    https://www.scribd.com/document/282721687/Breaking-the-Spell-the-Holocaust-Myth-Reality

    In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communi-cations between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were inter-cepted and decrypted.

    Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.

    The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, des- perate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED


    So, now the "Holocaust® Road Shoah" has chosen to single out Iran because it fosters the dreaded examination that the Fraudulent gang of International hucksters abhores.

    Meanwhile, if you can believe the ADL Study, Hindus are the most numerous non Holocaustians & "people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted"
    Hence, mandatory Holocaust® brainwashing has been imposed on innocent young minds via our School System with the hope of recruiting more unthinking Holocaustians


    ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    http://www.theatlantic.com/internat...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “ Only 54 percent of the world's population has heard of the Holocaust.

    This is the most staggering statistic in a new survey by the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) of more than 53,000 people in over 100 countries, conducted by First International Resources.

    But that figure speaks to only those who have heard of it:

    Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted
    CONTINUED


    If there were an ounce of integrity in these Selectively Outraged Holocaustian Hucksters, they would take their "Road Shoah" and proselytize where the "Lessons of the Holocaust® are most badly needed, a US subsidized country in which almost half of the population believes in Ethnic Cleansing

    For Example:

    “Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...nians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html


    It has long been evident that the so-called "Lessons of the Holocaust®" have been directed at everyone except those who need them the most, the Israelis
     
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    Who gives a flying fart about the Holocaust? Did you see where rioters looted the NASCAR Hall of Fame in Charlotte the other night?
     
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    What you need to understand is that it is not up to Jews to have to move away from where they were born or choose to live - it is up to USA as leader state of the civilized world to enforce peace and to enforce a civilized international law that protects all civilized citizens of the global community. Israel is the strongest ally of the USA and the relationship is vital to order in the middle east and to the order of the international community. AIPAC are not just advocating for all Americans and all Israelis by promoting a strong US-Israel relationship, but for all members of the civilized world.

    So-called religious freedom is all well and good but there must be limits because many religions are uncivilized. We cannot allow tribes to use shrunken heads in religious ceremonies even if headhunting was part of their traditional religion - we cannot allow so-called 'first people' such as the Aboriginals to use their 'dreamtime' and tribal law to excuse tribal law punishments like a spear through the leg - and we certainly not allow the Muslims to practice their barbaric Sharia Law. The Iranians can deny it all they like but the barbaric Islamist ideology of Sharia Law is what defines Iran. The Iranians can claim to have 'modified' Sharia Law all they like but they continue practice it, and by making laws that are in accordance to Sharia Iran is abusing peoples human rights.

    Iran is an uncivilized nation. What is happening in the Middle East is no 'genocide' - it is the civilized world bringing civilization. The Middle East is a sea of barbarity and Israel is our shining light. It is the civilized worlds responsibility and obligation to promote civilization across the entire world and until that job is done the barbarity of the Islamic Middle East is a danger to us all. Where do you think all of these terrorists come from exactly? And it is Iran that is the worlds biggest state sponsor of terrorism. Yet liberal Obama and his liberal friends of the UN want to sit back and allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons? Can you imagine how dangerous a world it could be without groups like AIPAC advocating for the civilized world? And you want to cry about Palestine? The Palestinian people elect terrorist organization Hamas to represent them and the UN wants to recognize them as a non-member state? The Palestinian society is terrorist - they elect terrorist organizations and train their children to be terrorists from birth - yet the UN and brain-dead liberals encourage these people? I cant even believe it. If Palestine is anything - it is a failed state. What we need are more Israeli settlers because the greater the spread of civilization in that part of the world the better for all of us. And if the UN continues to exist to attack Israel then the UN itself must be considered to be a failure and ignored/defunded.

    Nobody can believe the liberal western media and I do not believe for a second that Israel is not one o the most well loved and valued nations of the world. Of course when we have the liberal western media and the liberal leaders of USA and the UN attacking Israel constantly this is going to resonate with many non-thinking low information citizens. The fact is that even the slowest citizens of the civilized world understand how vital it is to have a strong Israel promoting civilized standards to the barbaric Muslims of the Middle East. We know where the terrorists come from and it is no shock that 50% of us are willing to put our names to a poll supporting the banning of Muslim immigration. It is the Muslim world and their barbaric Sharia Law that western citizens do not like. Not to mention their Islamic Terrorism.

    The only way to enforce civilization on Iran is to invade Iran. Only by invading Iran can we end the promoting of Sharia Law by the Iranian government and by their lunatic ayatollahs. The only way we can ensure peace for the civilized people of Israel is to invade Iran. The clock is ticking and it is only a matter of time before Iran develops nuclear weapons due to liberal Obama and his weak mishandling of this imminent threat. Even without nuclear capabilities the Israeli air space is very difficult to defend so it is just madness to allow a hostile enemy state like Iran to exist in the region. The only sane action that we can take is to pre-empt an Iranian strike on Israel by invading Iran and liberating its people from the Ayatollahs and Sharia Law.

    !תיקון עולם :)

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    So you have spent some time in Iran??????
     
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    No way ! Send that bill to Soros.

    I like your avatar.
     

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