Brexit Delay? The EU wants one, the UK does not.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politi...e-forced-extend-uk-s-brexit-transition-period
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52101096

I'm happy that the UK left the EU, and to extend the transition period isn't needed imo.
I'm not exactly in a hurry to have a deal with the EU anyway, so why would any Brexiteer want to extend the transition beyond 2020?

If any extension is granted, it should be to rethink Northern Ireland following EU rules; perhaps UK should demand NI leaves the EU too and cite a coming of senses to keep Northern Ireland aligned with the UK and if this fails, seeks compensation from the EU for losing Northern Ireland under EU's not UK's terms.

 

Honestly .. I am over with yur Brexit and the topic is finished. Do what you want on your island ... I do not really care anymore about your Brexit stupidity and lies...
You are out, so stop blamining the EU further for your own British faults and incompetence. These times are over where you can blame the EU for it.

Also ... make with Northern Ireland what you want ... if a new civil war with IRA breaks out, don't blame the EU for it, because the guilt is then only in London.
I vote for a real border between Ireland and Northern Ireland as EU outside border. Why? Because it is you who wants this at least and any further try for cherry picking is long time over. Eat the EU rules here or die and close the borders. Black or white and it is your decision only!

 

...grey....the world is grey....nothing is black and white any more as there are just too many conflicting interests at stake....the world is grey.

 

Very often, but sometimes not ... as here.
Sure, there will be negotiations again ... if that will bring something is another issue ... and the result of all negotiations is always a kind of compromise for both. If you mean that with gray, then OK.

But honestly ... what else is there for the UK than accepting what has already been said and considered? Nothing unless the government in London wants to start a new civil war in Northern Ireland.
The bad awakening in the UK is slowly coming ... very slowly ... because the Brexit clowns' lies are crumbling and the facts play a role.
And also the ridiculous attempts to make the EU guilty of everything will fail. Why should the EU bow to the idiotic will and dreams and cherry picking attempt of a "no longer a EU member" ... bow to its own harm?

 

Yup, that was my gist. For me the issue is much like this idiot Conte and his wittering on today about money...money...money...money...if you don't give me money then the citizens of the EU will... will what Conte? What will they do if the Germans don't give you money? Ultimately its about money and thus its about Germany. The Germans are pragmatists and the Germans fund the EU and I don't think the Germans are going to shoot themselves in the foot over this Brexit malarchy. The Germans are not idiotic enough to allow the French to take the EU down a dead end.

 

NI is part of the UK and so is leaving the EU. There is an agreement for some regulatory alignment between NI and the EU to allow for a softer border on the island of Ireland that would otherwise be necessary. It's far from a perfect solution but then so such thing exists.

The idea of "loosing" NI sounds a little nationalistic and imperial to me. Nobody is loosing it in as much as nobody really has it. I don't see the logic in taking such an aggressive and combative stance over what is already a different and complicated issue.

 

Correct! It is Germany that pays by far most money into the EU. It was Germany that saved in 2008 the Euro and at least the EU. And it is, for example, 75% Germany that directly and indirectly is the legal guarantor for the Greek debt! ... facts, simply facts!

The problem is that many people don't understand and accept that Germany is a completely sovereign country like any other. Many prefer that it is like it was before 1990 ... Germany pays everything, but has nothing to say and best to keep your mouth shut.
But these times are completely over and they will not come back ... and then there is always a counter reaction to the bad nazis and bad Germany, which started two world wars ... although this is only partially true of the WW-1.
And that just pisses me off! Especially when it comes from people from countries who have committed more than enough crimes and better shut up. These malicious reviews from Italy ... e.g. from such an idiotic comedy star ... are ridiculous with their reference to the Nazis. Who was once again an ally of the Nazis and voluntarily entered the Second World War on the German side without the Nazis wanting it? Um ... we'd better be silent and also about the fact that a dirty war was waged in Ethiopia with poison gas and mass murders at the time ...

 

Excuse me, how offensive do you want to be, to blame London for keeping a part of the UK British.

The EU, may as well cease to exist for all the good it's not doing anybody.

 

Why outsource production of things to cheap countries like in Asia and parts of the EU where Freedom is a new concept mis-sold to them with an EU flag when we can replicate with 3D printers even more now?

Down with cheap labour, up with 3D printing.

**** the EU. Just in time delivery is offensive as open borders or the single market for labour spanning different economies.

Whoever told you Europe wasn't for the most part backwards and devoid of freedom lied to you; It's a backwards mud puddle full of uneducated people willing to work for scale because in their countries it's a lot of money.
Employer's greed won't pay a local higher wages when some migrant's doing the work.

I liken UK employers who bitch about the lack of seasonal migrant workers to Confederates who bitched about losing Slave Labour at the end of the US Civil War.

Just don't be greedy and pay your employees a wage that'll attract locals and don't say there's no one to pick your cotton or your strawberries when EU migrants can't come.

It's crazy, one solution to fill the gap is to have covid-19 released convicts do the work instead of EU migrants this harvest; it's ****ing greedy and offensive and the sooner we rid ourselves of our dependency on cheap labour, the better! **** THE EU.

What makes a professional from the EU any more entitled than someone from the US? Nothing, this is not the EU, don't give a **** if someone's from the EU or not; so no special card for EU migrants in the UK, because that could , no, would be treating them different (special treatment) despite this not being an EU country. - **** the EU.

 

UK is a single market, that the EU wishes to tare apart by annexing NI imo.

What ever happens to Ireland stopped being our problem when they broke off from us.

 

Only 'Ireland' did not break away. The UK hung on to six counties of their colony somehow.

 

Ireland broke away from United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (UK didn't do it, Ireland broke away from the UK), don't think otherwise. Northern Ireland fought off the Republic because they wanted to stay UK.

We was UK in the British Isles until Ireland broke away , now it's UK & Ireland that make up the British Isles, and don't you think otherwise, also whatever happens to Ireland since they broke off from the UK is not our problem, anything that happens to Ireland if NI got to Brexit, again, not our problem, they split off, remember?

 

I do think otherwise. Ireland tried to oust British colonial dominance which is not the same as breaking away.

 

Ireland not's like the United States, Ireland's like a part of the UK that broke away.
Ireland was as much UK as Scotland or England or Wales.

Whatever colonial delusions Ireland have aren't UK's problem either, no colony Ireland was. Colonial dominance my foot, it's like saying London's colonised by the British.

 

When you use the word 'was' you're referring to History right?
I and many others would not interpret History the same way that you do.

 

You're just anti British anti Independent Northern Ireland, you want the north to join the republic for a united Ireland because that's all you know; If NI wasn't UK, why should it be Republic of Ireland, that's what you've got to justify.

You do know Ireland was a part of the UK and you're not like a colony, you know that right.

You've no George Washington or Ghandi to say you over threw your colonizers; you've just got someone who pulled you of the UK.

 

Well, the Luftwaffe is flying again over the UK and bringing desperately needed ventilators

 

You make assumptions here that are wrong.
I won't detail them all, but as some of them are personal I will mention that I was born in Kent and have lived all my life in London.
You do not have a monopoly of the perspective of everybody living in the UK.

 

You make assumptions here that are wrong.
I won't detail them all, but as some of them are personal I will mention that I was born in Kent and have lived all my life in London.
You do not have a monopoly of the perspective of everybody living in the UK.

 

Oops sorry double post.

 

Neither do you you with your Irish EU loving A'

What if I said United States of America to you? You gonna act like a Godless European or stand by your global partner The United States?

What does your UK self think of the US?

 

yeah but....perhaps I'm wrong...I generally am...but I think the only people that believe that line nowadays are absolute idiots incapable of comprehending the real world, living in their darkened bedrooms whose sole contact with the human race is other absolute idiots communicating via the internet.

I simply don't understand why the Germans allowed this to be the case? I remember when I gave up my DMs for Euros and all my friends (I lived in Hamburg at the time) were soooo pissssed off with having to ditch the DM but they did....and like good Germans they didn't complain. And now you have the French leading the Germans around like little lap dogs and for the life of me I don't know why? I recall this total abortion of a "Treaty" that was signed in Aachen and wonder who in the Germany government though it was a good idea to put ink on that paper... I mean who in their right mind though it was something of substance worth turning up for in Aachen to sign!!! It's a farce!! It was was an election slogan for the French, I mean it's like the Germany that I grew up in has lost its courage and its balls!

Anyway I'm sure their was a great reason for it but to me the French have taken over the initiative in the EU and let the Germans pay for it all....

 

Thank you Germany, don't have to be in the EU to get help, why not ship them to NY instead of UK?
We're thankful for every ventilator we've got but the epicentre's moved; why can't Germany or UK or anybody help out NY or the US as a whole?
Thank you Germany but this doesn't mean we want to be in the EU, and imo, EU or not shouldn't matter since Covid-19 cares not about borders or tariffs.
NY state was crying out for ventilators, why not ship them there?
Why UK?
I'm sure it's because we asked, but, NY asked too.

 

Don't you know, the US is building so many of them, more than they really need and will sell them to Germany, Spain, Italy, France and Spain.
For some odd reason the UK was not mentioned.

 

Tbh, I don't even remember UK asking Germany so, it's no surprise UK not getting any from America.