Brexit delayed to 31 October

The EU does not want No Deal that is true. The UK wants it less. Germany I have read will likely go into recession. The UK much more. The problems for the UK after the initial disruption are expected to get worse as time goes on. The EU and Germany will recover. The UK took the EU as far as it could on No Deal, The EU were prepared to go for it. Even when the UK realised the damage would be unacceptable France was still keen to let us go by the No Deal situation we had created. Economically leaving the EU is not financially a good idea for the UK. If people are wanting as they said political separation, well they could have had that without all this lark as the EU had already agreed we would have no further political intervention but after all the hysterics the best would be to go for a Norway type deal - keeping our economic relationship but letting completely go of the political. It will cost more and not be as good as staying in but it will fit the letter of what the leavers claimed they were wanting.

 

Correct!
The EU does not want a No Deal Brexit, because the EU ... ie the EU institutions and the EU member states, in contrast to the "No Deal Brexit idiots" know what that means and what consequences it has ... consequences for them and for UK.
The EU is also not interested in a poor UK or that there is an economic crisis ... even though some Brexit clowns are of course claiming the opposite.

However, the EU is slowly losing patience with the British, because they just show up as idiots who do not reach a majority for anything! At some point this British incompetence also starts to hurt the EU and then there is "beating" for the British from Brussels ... because ultimately the EU can also live with a No Deal Brexit ... in the UK that is very doubtful!

It is also correct that the economic forecasts in Germany are slightly reduced. German Employer Association President Ingo Kramer says: "We should not talk the economy down, but there are storm clouds on the horizon, which are relatively close."
The main reasons are clear ...

- Brexit chaos because of British incompetence to get their own Brexit done by their own propper
- Trade dispute USA - China, which also hits the global economy
- Trade dispute USA - EU with the idiotic punitive tariffs, running threats and the stupid chatter of Trump.

But the really funny thing is ...
If the German GDP is just as slightly downgraded as the economic growth, but Germany invests the same Euro amount in the military ... then Germany has not only fulfilled this idiotic 2% immediately (although we did it only 2024) ... no ... then we are at about 3% and ranked second behind the US in NATO.
Then I want to see all these monkeys here who demand this like this idiot Trump right now from us, what they say then!

 

The British side has been working for the interests of Britain.
No deal is in nobody's interest.

 

At worst 10% of GDP under a no deal situation. That's bad, it means less revenue in government coffers, unemployment, etc - but the EU is facing an existential threat.

They are in serious financial trouble, multiple nations have strong Eurosceptic movements just waiting for an excuse to boil over, some even have Eurosceptic governments in power.

The fiscal/monetary situation is teetering on the edge of disaster.

In the case of no deal they MUST get more money from Germany or give out less to Poland and co. Poland isn't exactly on great terms with Europe right now, there's a very real risk this could end in Polparture (lol).

Nobody wants no deal, rightfully so, but instead of manouvering a trade deal in the 2 years of Article 50 May and Co have been conninving at every stage to sabotage Brexit and push a vassalage deal, likely to mount pressure for another referendum.

In such an environment, no deal is the only viable option.

 

I agree a free trade deal would be preferable, but if that's not possible no deal must be on the table. And at this point, such a feat is simply not possible.

Maybe if the Brits put someone in charge who didn't fundamentally align with the opposition this would have been possible. No longer.

 

Source?
You've said that a few times now, how about some evidence rather than opinion?

 

Look at the deal she is pushing. As a hard Brexiteer, even remain is preferable. You cannot negotiate if you give away everything the opposition wants on the first day and try to deal for what you want on the second.

 

There is no mandate for no-deal.
It was never on the ballot.
Put no-deal up against remain and you'll have a far more honest referendum.

 

2 + 2 will always equal 4 in base ten...but not in base 8, for instance.

And even if you were correct, which you weren't, what does that have to do with what I mentioned?

 

Yes.

It was not nearly as diverse as the US.

So what is your point?

 

Okay...so leave.

You should be gone by now...but you aren't.

That was my point.

 

So only old white bigots who don't like brown people voted to exit? Is destroying a culture a wise thing to do, a very old one? Try that in other parts of the world and see how those cultures react. Try it in the middle east, japan, china.

It is such a horrible thing for a culture, a people of that culture to want to preserve it. Indeed if any culture thinks their culture has value, and does not want it destroyed, this is only what bigots want. What a bigoted thing to say! ha ha ha

Cultures arise naturally for it is what human beings do. Going against what human do naturally cannot be good, and it must create problems within the society. Anyone who destroys cultures by whatever means are not only bigots, but highly unintelligent bigots. They are too stupid to understand that what humans do naturally is the path of least resistance, and gives the optimum in order. Monkey with it, like a chimp, and its like a monkey playing with a buzz saw.

Plus, it is nice to have a variety of cultures, and we should try to maintain them, no matter how much the left screams bigots, racists, and so on. Leftists and globalists can tear down and thoughtlessly destroy, but seldom create anything of value. They are like kids who are jealous of another kid's toys, and start tearing up those kids toys.

I can recall when people were proud of their cultures, but then the globalists and multiculturalists arose, out of ignorance and stupidity, and look at the messes they have created where they got their way. And they could not care less. Indeed one wonders if these destructive minds delight in it.

 

Nonsense. British culture is completely indistinguishable from even a century ago. Cultures change, continuously. British culture is neither destroyed or harmed by that change.

What are you talking about?

That is the epitome of white supremacism. Did you take a wrong turn on the way to Stormfront?

Yup, you took a wrong turn.

 

Can't wait to see all the Brexit halloween costumes.. going to be good. Sure there'll be plenty of Theresa May's with pointy hats on their brooms...Zombie Brexit deals

 

Would that we could leave but our politicians won't let us. 'democracy'? What democracy??

 

I think all elections should be held on April 1st would then prove human being's at least have a sense of irony.

 

Well, this is not Switzerland where referendums decide things. Britain is still a monarchy after all.

 

I think the EU elections and the next general election will see Farage's new Brexit party stir things up a bit.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47907350

 

Switzerland is not a shining example of listening to the people.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...rns-referendum-as-voters-were-poorly-informed

 

Farage's new party isn't stirring anything unless it can win seats in Parliament.
Something he has failed to do himself on at least 7 occasions.
He's a fringe participant who is given far too much airtime.

 

Sounding more & more like a broken record. Manufactured news?

 

But UKIP was before the reigning members of Parliament ignored the vote of the people. That could well encourage them to change sides.

 

Money = Power and
Money does not want to BREXIT!

Ain't that obvious?

Just "do it".
Make deals to fill in short falls later when such needs are realized.
Money wants to Brexit with EU deals intact don'tchyaknow!

 

The 'colour' angle is merely the laziest and quickest determiner of culture. Drill down beyond that ostensible expression, and you find that it is ALL about culture (behaviour).

Look at how much vitriol is extended today towards white folk. Do you really think it's about the tone of their skin? And how about the Chinese diaspora, who've existed quietly and successfully in communities around the world for hundreds of years. Not much comment on their 'colour' (apart from the Commie tropes of the 20thC .. yellow peril and all that). Why? Because they adapt to the culture of their host society, rather than work in opposition to it.

 

I'm white and never have I had vitriol aimed at me because of my colour. And have you not heard of "China towns" that have formed in practically every major city?