Brexit: The British Establishment Has Lost Control

Right ... and nothing more as that...
And yes ... spit fire against the eternally evil EU ... I do not care, because I know better.
As I said ... from me, the British should go ... preferably before March 29, 2019! I do not feel like listening to the tale and the orgy of London lies.
And while we're there, I personally would kick out Hungary as next out of the EU.

 

Say, in which dream world do you live?
The French hate Merkel ... is clear! I laugh away! Sure, this Nazi bitch Le Pen and her Nazi followers does for sure hate her....

BTW ... who is the biggest payer in the EU, eh? We in Germany! But I guess you are one of these who want that we only pay, but shut up and submit to your will, right?

 

Nice that the EU has never done that ... but I know ... the perception by the too warm beer of Brexit trolls has been very clouded with you.

 

You wont need to kick Hungary out if you continue as you are.

And although you have undying faith in the bureaucacy, a lot of other nations dont. Whats the point of a European Union thats missing half of Europe? Italy, Hungary, Czech Republic, Poland, be careful what you wish for.

 

Macron is an EU puppet, he is the person to base French opinion of the EU on and I believe he has been found out!

Germany pay the most in because the whole system is for their benefit. They sell the most, mainly to us though. I can just see it now, all those rich Eastern European counties lapping up those luxury German cars. What will you do with the hundreds of thousands of slaves you imported when there is little to build?

 

Nice ... but you already know that communities ... so also individual states like yours themselves, without bureaucracy do not get along?

Of course, with Viktor Orban, Hungary is the big hero to all the EU haters ... and, as always, it does not matter what this is all about, the only important thing is that he got in trouble with the EU, eh?
You know, Hungary, like any other member, has signed a treaty that includes duties and standards of democracy when joining the EU.
If Orban and a majority of Hungarians are tired of it to follow democratic core values, then it is their internal issue of course ... but then they should also make a Brexit and go ... or abide to the contract.
And if it were up to me, about one third of the members of the EU would not even have joined.

 

Lol ... sure, we benefit of it in moment, but we did not always and there were times where we pay as usual the most, but the benefit were at others. This is a pure lie you write here!
Yes, our economy is strong but this is due to a hurtful process at us with a total refomraton of the social system in the past which put the success of today in the tracks. But I know ... it is more easy to blame these evil Germans for all and everything ... including things you messed up by your own ... to be guilty and as usual comes the WW2 and Nazi time into the game.... as far as we do not say "Yes Sahib", eh?

And which rich Eastern European countries please and who's slaves ... those like Poland where you have 1 million of them and which you hate, as you hate all foreigners inside your country since ever and no matter of which origin as your history shows?

You remember one of these funny impudent Cherry Picking demands from the UK during Brexit negotiations? This evil free movement inside the EU was topic with the British demand of that for all Brits it is further valid throughout the complete rest of the remaining 27 states ... but you can choose whom from the EU you give this too and whom not? This is a good example of British madness!

 

Germany
France
Spain

Who else?

 

Germany
France
Spain

Who else?

 

Yes, we British hate foreigners. That's why we have the most tolerant, inclusive society in world history. Exactly, there are no other rich countries in the EU to buy your goods, that's my point?

To be fair, I don't agree with that, if we won't allow free movement to our country, I don't believe we should have it the other way round. Every sane country checks every person coming in through the door otherwise you get what Europe has now, terrorist sleeper cells just waiting to attack. Oh well, commit a crime in France and just hop unchecked, unchallenged to any European nation! You see how ludicrous that system is? And the dangers of increasing human, drug and weapon smuggling? This is before we even touch on the fact that free movement has drained the poorer countries of it's talent. The whole thing is a gigantic mess.

Can you give me one positive of the European Union which can be applied to all nations?

 

Take Spain out bro, they are financially ruined. The UK, Germany, France, the Scandinavian countries, Holland and Belgium. They are the only countries who should be in a European Union and it would only work if it was solely for trade. We all know that trade was the false narrative in the EU's early days to allow federalism through the back door.

 

I don't think you need to kick out Hungary, they will probably leave on their own as will many countries. Let's just say they don't like the Prussian hard handed methods.

 

The British mistake was joining the EU in the first place.

Any nation that gives up its sovereignty deserves what it gets.

 

Tony Blair and Gordon Brown signed the country away without the consent of the people. When we joined in the 70s it was a trade union and a positive one, the Lisbon Treaty made it a political one.

 

I believe Britain will do better without EU. Separation might cause some short term pain, but in the long term UK will do very well.
F alarmists! Canada does well without EU. If you want to claim that Canada benefits from the US - look at Australia! You don’t need EU to do well.

 

Not even without Brexit. With Brexit, you're significantly smaller than us.

And by "us" I mean the United States, not NAFTA.

 

Try at least to get a handle on reality before posting twaddle.

There was no question of surrendering sovereignty when the UK joined the Common Market (the forerunner of the EU) in 1975. It was simply a trading agreement.

 

Without reading the Treaty they were about to sign, according to Danish MEP, Jens-Peter Bonde who says of the outcome:

http://www.tuks.nl/docs/From_EU_Constitution_to_Lisbon_Treaty_april_2008.pdf

Just reading his "Introduction" (beginning page 7) reveals how much was actually concealed from the public plus all the tricks and murkiness used to cloak what actually was taking place. It remains an utter disgrace.

And Blair should be reviled even more than he is for signing it.

 

How wrong we were? And to recollect that I was one of those who fell for it.

 

The british people want to leave the EU

But the british elites do not

Just as in America where the people want an end to mass illegal aliens invading our country but the political havks in washington do not want ot stop it

 

If we had surrendered our sovereignty then by definition we would be able even consider leaving the EU.

 

True, but a union where there is no process to leave is essentially slavery. Whilst there is a clause allowing countries to leave of their own free will, it's quite clear that we are seeing that no country will be allowed to leave peacefully. This whole process has shown the real face of the European Union, undemocratic and deeply bureaucratic.

 

This is what western democracy has become - a perversion of itself, where the (public) servants have become the masters, and the masters the servants to do as they are told by the very class who are thriving on their money. It doesn't get much more bizarre than that?

 

I met a woman from sween yesterday

A real Nordic beauty

So just to make conversation I said tell me about sweden

She said its not very good there now

All her friends have moved to other countries

Why I asked?

Her answer was simple

Immigration

 

Me too Cerb. But none of us were told what the long term plan was. The Masters of the Universe understood the British people would've voted against it back then had they known - so everything was kept secret.

Btw, do you remember being told that the Treaty of Lisbon surrendered British sovereignty? I certainly don't recall that.