Brianna Kupfer murder: UCLA student noticed 'bad vibe' from man prior to her death, text messages sh

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  1. Melb_muser

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    I was make the point that both races get additional media coverage due to race.
     
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    Biden deserves impeachment for his screwup of the Afghan pullout. That having been said, this is not about Biden. This is about a liberal criminal justice system that allowed a man that was awaiting trial for shooting a flare gun at a car carrying a toddler out on a partially secured $50,000 bail (probably paid for by some charity-for-criminals group). Someone with a history of committing violent acts and having mental instability to wonder the streets. It is about a mentally unstable violent person walking into a furniture store and stabbing a young woman working there alone. He was homeless. So, why was he in a furniture store in the first place? Brianna Kupfer text a friend that the man was giving her a bad vibe. Twenty minutes later some customers entered the store and found her stabbed to death.

    Contrary to what the OP stated, this story is getting media coverage, but there are some glaring exceptions. CNN has done only one story about it. That store dealt with the arrest of the Suspect. CBS did one article shortly after it first happened. ABC had some coverage on their local news broadcasts, but nothing from the national desk. MSNBC, Huffington Post, Mother Jones and many other sources that normally chime in when it is a black person killed are unsurprisingly silent.

    But the real story would be, how long will it get media coverage. Thank about the Waukesha Christmas Parade Massacre. That happened just two months ago, but you hardly hear about it now. Darrell Brooks just had a preliminary hearing a few days ago, and they added 71 more charges against him. Yet did you see that in the news? Two months from now, how many people will remember the names of Brianna Kupfer or Shawn Smith?
     
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    Dems definitely do not care when a white person os victimized. It’s a sad reality today that white people statistically are victimized far more often in interracial crime, yet all you here about in the msm are white Karen’s being rude.

    I do think this is changing as the radical left is slowly but surely being rejected, but it’s still the current reality.
     
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    A bunch of nonsense. All you hear about is white people being the aggressors, black perps being protected at all costs. The rest of the world hates Americans for a variety of reasons, on the top
    Of that list is how ignorant and uninformed People are as evidenced by your post. Your entire list is so out of touch with reality it’s astounding. Regardless, people are waking up and rejecting this white white racism that is so prevalent these days.
     
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    Exactly, his entire response was a strawman.

    I’ve noticed the left didn’t even know what they are arguing against half the time, they just react emotionally to everything.

    from an objective standpoint crimes against black people as committed by white people are over reported by the msm when compared to the statistics. People react with far more anger when a black person is killed by a white person. Hell, society reacts with far more anger at a white kid in Nick Sandmann at a picture of him just standing there than something like this where a person is murdered.

    The left gets played and don’t even realize it.
     
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    That’s definitely a Democrat perspective as
    Of lately.
     
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    Yes you have. And no it’s not. The outrage is at the double standards of society when a white person is killed by a black person. The outrage isn’t there but in the reverse cities burn from coast to coast.
     
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    It’s weird that the Starbucks issue I’m sure you point to is even an issue of race. They were not denied access to the bathrooms because of their race. They were denied access because they were not paying customers and at the time Starbucks had a policy that only allowed paying customers to use the bathroom. I myself have been told I needed to buy something to use a bathroom before. That’s not racist and I didn’t go screaming racism when it happened. This only turned racist because they played the race card.
     
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    To be fair there has been random knife attacks against black males. Not aware of one against a black female but why would gender matter when you’re talking about race?

    the big difference is any white guy that randomly attacks a black man will be charged with a hate crime. Blacks who randomly attack whites almost never get charged with hate crimes.
     
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    So the rest of the world hates Americans.......that is why they flock here and droves. You see America through a lens of hate. Thanks for sharing your f-up frame of reference. It is that same frame of reference that makes flakes like Obama and Biden go on apology tours around the world while they insist America take a backseat while others lead!
     
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    I don't watch the news so I can't speak on that. Nevertheless, while tragic, what does any of that have to do with my post?
     
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    oh FFS.

    This is an entire thread of made up motive and conspiracies.

    A black man killed white woman. All of the saber ratteling and excuse making and motive fantasies are ridiculous
     
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    This is all literally made from whole cloth
     
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    Whose forcing you to participate? Clearly it's causing you some sort of stress,, Choose/create a different topic that makes you happier ;)
     
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    Democrats / Leftists are good with seeing young, educated women get slaughtered by felons. It's what they vote for. It's what they get.

    I don't go into L.A. County (except for Poker) and I am a good sized, fit, and trained man. It's a cesspool and if I do defend myself (I pack heat whenever I go there), I can see myself end up in jail/prison. It's best to stay out of Democratic Party controlled areas. Orange County is far far superior.
     
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    The very first line of your post, "The media reports white being killed all the time." You then went on to say, "Please try to stop spreading hatred. All black people aren't murderers and all white people aren't saints. And, I bet you bypassed murderers that killed someone of their own race too. But that's not as much fun to do you battle cry for your ilk."

    I was explaining what this case was about. It was not about "All black people being murders, and all white people being saints." In other words, I was agreeing with that statement. But you are the one that started talking about what the media was reporting. I pointed out that the real facts are that many stories like this are a flash in the pan. They sensationalize the store for a couple of weeks, and then move on as if it never happened. There are some real lessons that need to be learned by this story. It is another one where the suspect was out on a bail that was lower than it should have been. Obviously, reduced or partially secured bail is not enough of a deterrent to stop these criminals from committing more, and in this case, more violent crimes. This individual had mental issues, and obviously posed a threat to himself and others. He should not have been walking the streets. He should have been in a locked down facility getting the help he desperately needs. It was not all that long ago that we overhauled our healthcare system, but somehow mental health was ignored. How many lives could be saved by a comprehensive mental health system in this country.

    But I have one more question for you. If you do not watch the news, then how do you know what the media does and does not report?
     
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    Question for you. Are you aware there are other planets, a sun and a moon in our solar system? If so, how do you know that if you've never been outside this planet?
    My point is and has always been that there is no value in posting these types of things when the concern is NOT about how we fix our criminal justice or mental health systems in this country.

    This specific case was posted to fan the flames of bigotry.
    I am a former police officer and child abuse advocate. Television is not the only way to obtain information about the world around us. I'm not honestly sure why that has to be said.
     
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    They have these things called telescopes. That allows us to see what is happening outside our solar system, but as far as I know, they will not tell you what the media is or is not reporting. Your response just proves that your pervious response was a cop out. You claimed to know what the media is reporting and then claim that you cannot comment on who is reporting/not reporting what because you do not watch the news. In case your do not know, the news is reported by the media. So, in order to know what is being reported, you have to watch the news. Personally, I do not "watch" the news. I have extreme hearing loss, and I have found that closed caption is less then accurate. Instead, I read the news from various internet sources. But even given that, I would not say that I do not watch the news. So, I ask again, If you do not watch the news, then how do you know what the media does and does not report?

    Are you talking about what I said, or what the OP said? If you are talking about the OP, I agreed with you. If you are talking about what I said, then you are wrong. This story is very much about the Criminal Justice and mental healthcare systems in this country. Smith was out of bail from having shot a flair gun at a car carrying a toddler. Because Smith was not able to pay the original bail, they reduced it. He still was not able to pay. So, they allowed him out of jail on a partially secured bail. In my previous post, I pointed out that that partial bail payment was more than likely paid by one of the Charity-for-criminal organizations. It is very possible that Smith was on the street without having to post a dime. This parallels our previous conversation about the Waukesha Christmas Parade massacre. Darrell Brooks was also out on a low bail that his mother paid. So, the concept of allowing criminals out onto the street without having to post their own money is a key element of this case. Further, how can you claim mental health does not play a part in this case? Smith has a college degree. He used to have a steady job in the construction industry. He owned a house and a car. He had a life in North and South Carolina. He gave all that up to live on the street in La Brea California. If he had received treatment for his mental issues back in the Carolinas he would not have been living on the street in California. If he had not been released from jail, he would not have been there that night to stab Breannia Kupfer. So, the Criminal Justice and mental health systems are very much a part of the story here.

    There is an old saying. If you cannot learn from your mistakes, you are doomed to repeat them. If we cavalierly dismiss these situations by observing them in a vacuum, we will not learn from them.

    Again, I agreed with you on that point!!!

    You don't need to keep telling me that piece of information.

    See, this is where the communication is breaking down. You are attributing your mistake to me. You are assuming that when I am talking about the media that I am talking about TV. I am not. As I explained above, I do not watch news on the TV. This is how I determined what I posted. I use Bing search engine. I typed Breanna Kupfer, and then clicked on the "News" heading. This brought up more than 6,000 news articles. I then scanned the meta files to see who reported each article. I compiled a list of who did articles and noticed who was not on the list. I then typed each news service that was missing and the woman's name. The first few entries will tell you whether that news service bothered to report on the story. Now, I know who is reporting what without watching news on TV. But I do agree with you. I should not have to explain all that to you.
     
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    Let's try this again. I didn't say that I have **NEVER** watched the news. I said that I do not watch the news.

    See how our cool language gives us words that help the reader understand past, present and future tense? Cool, huh?

    Recap

    I didn't say that I have **NEVER** watched the news. <------ Past tense

    I said that I do not watch the news. <------ Present tense

    I probably will never start watching the news again. <------ Future tense
    People talk about big news reports, right? When I worked in Corporate America, it didn't matter if I watched the news or not because people always talk about major news. I didn't miss anything important by not gluing myself to the evening news and I didn't have to hear about all the crazy stories of cops being killed or people dying in fires.

    And, again, maybe I'm a bit more resourceful but I don't have to watch the news or read anything about what somebody wrote about the news to KNOW that <whatever it was> happened. I haven't left home in over six months and I tell the person that works for me to be quiet at least 4,000/week. I don't care what she saw on the news. If I cared to hear it, I would watch it myself.
    I don't know. I didn't go back to look. What are you clutching your pearls about again?
    I don't have to go back and look as I KNOW I didn't suggest otherwise.
    Please provide any evidence you think you have that I stated otherwise.
    I didn't, but if believing that helps you have warm fuzzies and sleep at night, go for it.
    At the risk of repeating myself, I don't care why he did or where he did it or when he did it. And, there is no point in my running on a hamster wheel to nowhere to justify that position. I don't care about any of that.
    Sigh. I didn't say they weren't.
    What did you learn from this specific case, if you don't mind sharing that.

    I learned that some people are @ssholes and they hurt other people.
    You don't need superfluous punctuation. I know you're clutching your pearls without all that.
    I will keep telling you if it's the answer to whatever you ask me. If you don't like that, don't ask me anything where you might get the hunch that answer applies or don't read it.
    I didn't make a mistake. I stated my position and you tried to paint me in a corner by implying that my statement was false because I wrote that the media reports....<I'm tired...whatever the hell I said about that>.

    I'm responsible for what I write. I'm not responsible for your reading comprehension of what I write.
    So, let me see if I'm understanding your position clearly.

    I state that I do not watch the news and you basically call that BS.

    You state that you don't watch the news and that's legit.



    Now, here comes the tricky part. You'll have to focus.

    I am not a gambler but I would feel comfortable saying a large percentage of people that stumble across this conversation will be able to figure out that my use of the word "watch" in "I don't watch the news"...Wait, I think ****EVERYONE**** outside of you will use that verb as a clue to reference the noun "television". So, I'm not particularly worried about this being a stumbling block for the <Number of literate people that can read and understand English, have an interest in this topic and finished maybe 4th grade?>. I absolutely understand why that would be an impossible task for Trump, but nobody else will have the concerns that you have about my statements.

    But, it just so happens that you have gained some kind of pleasure or relief in sticking to the <whatever is happening in your brain>, please feel free to hold onto that so I can rest knowing that you were able to sleep tonight.
     
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    The black crime against Asian-Americans seems to be a low priority of liberals as well as the crimes against Whites.
     
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    It’s true regardless if you like it or not.
     
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    What’s ridiculous is the democrat hypocrisy around these issues
     
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    Between the corrupt FBI and all the dirty prosecutors we have a real mess that needs cleaning up: Baltimore State's Attorney in even more trouble for campaign finance "irregularities".

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    Another Dirty Prosecutor?
     
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